[germandiago]

No. What you say is a caricature of him. I listened to him directly. In spanish. I am spanish.

He never opposed to same sex marriage or denied climate change. What he said is that people treat climate change as religion without any other considerations.

A libertarian is not far right. You could consider it right, but far right is just absurd. A libertarian cannot be anti-liberal in essence. Milei never defended positions of force against others and promotes respect for life, private life (he does not care who you go to the bed with or who you trade with) and private property.

Anyone who knows ehat far right is knows perfectly this is not a far right position at all.

[cartucho1]

On climate change:

https://www.infobae.com/politica/2023/10/08/que-opina-javier...

https://chequeado.com/ultimas-noticias/javier-milei-en-el-se...

[synecdoche]

Global scientist consensus is nonsense. There’s only consensus if dissidenters are excluded and suppressed.

[germandiago]

You would do a favor to yourself listening full interviews about what he says. Not about what others say that he says.

I do not mean it in a negative tone. But they called him or attribute him so much nonsense that I would not know even where to start...

[pas]

I hope you are right, but it's a bit silly to try to claim that there's a caricature and there's a perfectly cromulent man behind it, when his whole political persona is the former.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1692224414593478923 (the "why do you call leftists shit?" interview)

[germandiago]

He does not like leftists ideas (most, not absolutely all) and he is not politically correct all the time when speaking and I donot mean he is right about doing this. Just oart of his personality. Can be harmful for him, yes, but that's him.

If you listened carefully what he defends and under which principles and framework, you will quikcly understand he is a libertarian. That is not "far right". It is something entirely different.

Almost everything he said that looks bad when heard isolated is usually manipulated by lack of context to poject a different idea of what he is saying or defending.

Not sure if translatiins for full interviews of what he says exist. But just listen to the interview with Tucker Carlson, that one is translated and can give you an idea of what he defends that is quite accurate.

[pas]

hard to listen carefully when someone is shouting at you and lunging with a chainsaw :)

I'm not saying he is the next Pol Pot, but I'm trying to point out there's not much sense in pontificating over what a populist candidate thinks/plans.

Trump was a registered Democrat until he wasn't, etc.

[germandiago]

He has little to do with Trump except for being more or less anti-left (not in a totally orthodox way though)

I would recommend you to see the interview with Tucker Carlson for a less distorted view of his thinking and proposals.

He has nothing to do with far right. He is a libertarian, an anti-statist (the opposite of an antiliberal, no matter left or right wing in this case, hence, labelling hime as "far right" is just absurd).

If you want to keep his caricature in your mind I am ok with it. But I have been following him for years. And I do not need english translation or middle-man interpretations at all. I saw it myself.

Yes, sometimes he used to raise his voice (lately less). But compared to promoting policies where inflation reaches 150% or smashing people with taxes, Milei is a much better alternative.

BTW, technically speaking, as an economist, he has a very solid background and has worked for many years in the private sector. For me, those are good things, not bad.

I understand some people do not like Milei, but that nonsense about zoophilia, far right or similar things just look for insulting him so that people make a caricature out of him.

I find him a solid candidate. Let us see when he starts governing. Only time will tell.

[pas]

He goes on a populist far-right propagandist's show but somehow that will lead to a less distorted view?

Look, I have nothing against Milei (because I haven't even set foot on that side of the Atlantic), nor against libertarianism (I agree we should strive to approximate it), or crypto, or being irreverent (which might be a moot point in Argentina and nowadays).

I really hope he can stay true to the ideas we think he has, but I have serious doubts after seeing this rhetoric again and again all over the world and taking into account how bad the situation is in Argentina (and all over the world).

I know nothing about allegations of zoophilia, and of course any such extreme allegation without similarly hefty evidence are just ridiculous. I think he deserves a fair chance, despite his abrasiveness and methods, but that doesn't absolve him of these.

[monero-xmr]

Saying you won’t watch an interview because you dislike the host, when the subject is about the interviewee, shows a strong tendency to police thought and ignore anything that contradicts your prior beliefs.

[germandiago]

No, he does not. Listen to the interview with Tucker Carlson. It is there. It is well exposed. He does not shout in that interview.

With all his defects and given the argentinian situation, I honestly think he was the right choice. I say this from a confidence point of view. We have to see what he really ends up doing and only time will tell. At that time we will know.

I am a supporter of Bukele as well. He is not supposed to be anywhere near the right. But... he had good results so far. That is what I wish to countries: peace, progress, results.

Greetings!