[sgift]

> Speaking of disingenuous, every time the sentry people come in here to talk it's always strawmen.

Good that I'm not the only one who feels that way. Every comment by Sentry people I've read here so far was basically a mix of straw man, word lawyering ("We didn't say this. We said something that means the same to anyone who doesn't actively try to think of some fringe interpretation, but OBVIOUSLY that means you misquoted us. How unfair.") and aggressive "you are against us! Meanie!"

Or in other words, to use their quote back on them: If you are convinced your license is the best thing since sliced bread, there is probably little we can do to disavow you of that notion.

[bentlegen]

> Or in other words, to use their quote back on them: If you are convinced your license is the best thing since sliced bread, there is probably little we can do to disavow you of that notion.

I don't think anyone in this thread has claimed that this license is the best thing since sliced bread, or even described it as "great". It is a license we have chosen to use that we think is good for us, and we think it has merit for similar SaaS businesses who choose to share their code as we do.

(If I'm mistaken and someone has claimed that, I am happy to be corrected.)

[sgift]

Let me rephrase it a bit less aggressive, I think "disarming" the discussion is good: I understand the part that you think it works good for you (hey, why else would you use it?) and you hope it can help others. But the 'vibe' I get from your answers is very .. Stallman-y? And at least to me that's very off-putting.

But: I still wish you the best. The sustainability crisis in open source is a real problem and I hold my fingers crossed for a good solution.

[arp242]

Most comments I've seen are just clarifications, and they're usually pointing towards a good-faith reading of what was said, rather than a "what evil plot for world domination does this hide?"-reading.

Let's not pretend the "feedback" on these types of things is generally less than stellar, and often quite toxic. Some people are convinced this is part of some dark and sinister plot and will use even the slightest hint to "prove" this. The dynamic here is not the easiest to navigate.