[John7149]

Microsoft owns near half of OpenAI. Meanwhile OpenAI staff pretty much consider Altman as their chieftain. If Altman return, the board has to resign. If Altman going out, near entire OpenAI staff (especially the key personnel) will follow Altman. Then board still has to resign because OpenAI collapse internally. So either way, the board has to resign...difference just when. Board did bad moves. Obviously a few factions developed likely jeoulous of Altman fame.

[yumraj]

> Microsoft owns near half of OpenAI.

I don't believe this is true, especially given OpenAI's weird corporate structure with non-profit and for-profit entities. I could be wrong.

> Meanwhile OpenAI staff pretty much consider Altman as their chieftain....

> If Altman going out, near entire OpenAI staff (especially the key personnel) will follow Altman.

Again, not saying you're wrong since I have no first hand info. But do you have first hand info on this, or is this speculation based on various reports. Genuinely curious..

[compsciphd]

I'm wondering how the employees can move to a company doing essentially the exact same thing without any violation of privileged information from their old jobs.

The only thing I can assume is that there's nothing particularly proprietary about anything OpenAI has done, its just an issue of scale. But if that's the case, it would make them not that valuable, as anyone willing to invest enough to reach that same scale using the same non proprietary techniques would be just as good.

or am I missing something?

[pitched]

You can get a local chatbot running in seconds with this tool: https://github.com/jmorganca/ollama

None of the open models available to these local tools benchmark as well as the closed OpenAI model but the benchmarks are weird. In my own poking around, some models are definitely less coherent or more detailed for some specific prompts but it’s mostly the same.