[mikeravkine]

Why would you need to compete with such an entity? What does "compete" even mean here? Can't instead everyone get one (or 10) of these to.. assist them? I don't understand why we are jumping directly into dystopian scifi vs what past tool revolutions actually look like.

[BobbyJo]

If you have 10 "assistants" who are smarter than you, what are you actually doing that would take more than 5 minutes of your time? How could you convince yourself you're still necessary in that situation?

[throwaway290]

Surely it's been a reality for years world over that stupider people end up occupying higher positions. One can have 10 subordinates each 10x smarter than the higher up and all that happens is subordinates get 100x work and the higher up in question gets a promotion. But remember that this is bad analogy because it is talking about humans and assistants have basic human stuff like rights and feelings and self awareness just like their boss.

If we are talking about some software tool, you can't be unnecessary because the tool exists for you not the other way around. If your tool starts occupying your place in life, getting all the praise, taking away your job, taking away all your purpose of life, living in your family, parenting your children, taking care of your parents, sleeping with your wife (OK I'm joking at this point) then maybe the tool is harming your human rights, bad tool should be banned. Maybe someone who runs this tool now gets paid more and they should answer to the law. Maybe they even trained this tool on your data and you didn't think to object back then.

[BobbyJo]

Im not actually sure what you're trying to say here. Your first paragraph seems to suggest people with smarter assistants are indeed deluding themselves by thinking they're necessary. The second suggests you cant be unnecessary because we wont want AGI helping in our homes?

If you want to take care of your parents and do stuff in your home yourself, why would AGI force you not to? Id classify that as entertaining yourself. With purpose sure, but still.

[throwaway290]

You are only confused if you can't distinguish tech and humanity

> people with smarter assistants are indeed deluding themselves by thinking they're necessary

If they were not necessary then they would not be in a higher up position would they?

> If you want to take care of your parents and do stuff in your home yourself, why would AGI force you not to?

Yes. You can't be rendered useless by tech if tech is there for your benefit. (Though you can be harmed by tech if it is harmful or someone uses it against you for own benefit as part of obsolete dog eat dog society dynamic.)

[Jcowell]

who’s going to give everyone one? How? In what world does AGI not end up being in the hands of corporations , wiping out jobs, causing mass unemployment before governments have the ability to enact effective legislation?