[icegreentea2]

Heh, I generally agree with you. But you really do need to wonder how much of the "SpaceX" cheering is staged/prompted. For example, they let out a big cheer from the SpaceX employees right after Starship RUD'd (try t+8:30). But the interleaved shots of their actual control center shows far more restraint. Certainly no overly disappointed looks, but Elon's face looks quite measured.

Though of course, even the most negative cynical person can make this whole by rationalizing that the line employees cheering are cheering the flaming end of a death march (and channeling all of their suppressed 'i told you so's), while trying to blind themselves to the next upcoming death march.

[chpatrick]

I think the charitable interpretation is that the SpaceX employees are just happy their work is coming to fruition, while Elon is annoyed we're not on Mars yet.

[Podgajski]

Yes, this is my point. It’s marketing. I was taught not to wallow in my failures, but not to celebrate them either when I’m trying to reach a larger goal. There’s no success in failure, that’s an oxymoron,. You can learn things from failure, but it’s not a success never.

[jryle70]

Of course there’s success in failure. If you need 10 things to work right, and you can't verify all 10 things at once (because they need to happen in sequence), but you make it step by step, then it's a success. If you can verify not one but multiple things in a single test, that'd be a big success. If all 10 things work then it's a total success. And if you can repeat the test 10 times, then you have a home run, especially for something as groundbreaking as Starship.

Why is it so difficult to understand? I'm sure you know the odd of 10 things failing is not 10 times of a single failure, but much higher.

[cwillu]

“My baby took his first steps today”

“I don't know why you're celebrating their failure to stay standing.”