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by Iv 949 days ago
> and now they managed to shake up their user's trust in leadership stability

Do users care about that? I care about features stability and avoidance of shitification.

That's why I am usually preferring open models to depending on OpenAI's API. This drama has me curious about the outcome and if it leads to more openness from OpenAI, it may gain me back as a user.
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jawakar 948 days ago
> Do users care about that? I care about features stability and avoidance of shitification.

Maybe not the individual users, but the enterprises/startups which builds around OpenAI.

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jawakar 948 days ago
Thread about this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316682
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ModernMech 948 days ago
Leadership stability is feature stability and avoidance of shitification. Just look at Twitter, I mean X.
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blululu 948 days ago
When leadership takes on a gigantic amount of VC backed debt that must be paid back whether or not there was ever a business model that could justify the loans, then you get shitificaition.
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dash2 948 days ago
They're trying to get to AGI. I don't think keeping the current chatGPT feature stable is their primary goal.
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infamouscow 948 days ago
> Do users care about that? I care about features stability and avoidance of shitification.

I pay for ChatGPT, and I care.

What percentage of users, and how many in absolute numbers is a matter of debate, but this nonsense (and it is nonsense) is antithetical to building a strong trusting relationship with AI. At the very least it's as antithetical to their mission.

If we take a step back, the benchmark now is to be actually transparent. Radically transparent. Like when Elon purchased Twitter and aired all the dirty laundry in the Twitter Files transparent. The cowards at OpenAI hiding behind lawyers advising them of lawsuits are just that, cowards. Leaders stand by their principles in the darkest of times, regardless of whatever highfalutin excuses one could hide behind. It's pathetic and embarrassing. A lawsuit at a heavily funded tech startup at this level is not even a speeding ticket in the grand scheme of things.

95%+ of tech startup wisdom from the last decade is completely irrelevant now. We're living in a new era. The idea people will forget this in a month doesn't hold for AI. It holds for food delivery apps, not AI tech the public believes (right or wrong) might be an existential threat to their prosperity and economic future.

The degree of leadership buffoonery taking place at OpenAI is not acceptable and one must be genuinely stupid to defend it. Everyone involved should resign if they have any self-respect.

My prognostication is the market will express it's displeasure in the coming weeks and months, setting the tone for everyone else going forward. How the hell is anyone supposed to trust OpenAI after this?

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