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by mattmanser 5184 days ago
You both are part of the problem, where has this meme come from that companies should be heartless bastards? Companies have become poor citizens and it's this kind of thinking that's causing it.
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Before accusing people of being part of the problem, you should perhaps be a little critical of yourself and your own incoherent arguments. No-one has called for companies to be heartless bastards. Nor are companies citizens of any kind. Companies are bureaucratic capitalist structures - they don't have hearts and cannot be citizens.

My reason for disliking companies giving to charities is because it imposes a single or a small number of charities on a group of people. Not all people in that group may agree with that charity's aims.

I also think charity giving is a moral issue, and morality resides within individuals not bureaucratic capitalist structures. Not that I expect you to understand the nuance of this argument. I am just part of "the problem" - whatever that problem might be.

You just explained the problem yourself. Companies put cash and profits over causes and people. The "1% of Nothing" initiative is only encouraging founders to invest a percentage of this cash to a philanthropic cause. If I understand correctly, employees and other shareholder equity will remain unaffected. Furthermore, if they don't believe in the company's philanthropic efforts, they are still free to work or invest elsewhere.
But the problem of good and bad companies is not about how much they give to charity. I bet tobacco and arms companies give huge wads to charities but that does not make them good.

Good companies are companies whose work (their "cause" enacted by their "people") is socially beneficial. Such companies do not need to give 1% of their equity away to charities to be good - indeed to do so, would be to distract from their socially beneficial mission.

So, you support socially beneficial companies, yet object to companies diversifying their social contributions by a percentage or so? I'm sorry, but I just don't buy the argument that donating a percentage of equity from each founder would be distractive.
It would be 1% distracting.
Also, 1% diversified. If 99% of a company's social value isn't good, at least a percentage may be.
Does morality lie within a charitable nonprofit corporation? If not, how is there morality in charitable giving? Where does that morality go?
So is a company a person now?
In a way, it already is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood

If anything, this pledge is just trying to invoke one percentage of empathy in the mind of this sociopath.

That's a (disputed) point of law, not a law of sociology or psychology or spirituality or such.