[w-ll]

Look, i dont have kids, so take this with a grain of salt, but even crossing the street at an interstion with clear rules, in a walkable city, is dangerous these days.

Everyone is on their phones, not paying attention. I dont know who to blame, but collectively we are kinda F'd.

Just the other day someone almost hit, while i was walking in a desiginated walking area and they just said "sorry, didnt see you." I replied in kind "duck you get off your phone"

it sucks kids cant run around and play, i did, but also we've gotten ourselves in a bad spot with screens and phone.

im not advocating anything, just saying, it sucks everwhere

[Barrin92]

Traffic accidents including kids (as well as traffic accidents in general) have been trending down for decades significantly[1]. This is also the case for virtually any safety related statistic.

It has nothing to do with reality, it's simply that helicopter parenting and neuroticism has been trending up for ages.

[1]https://seriousaccidents.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/chil...

[em500]

Maybe traffic accidents including kids have been trending down because kids are spending less time outside? It can be both true that the number of accidents have decreased and that actually playing outside is more dangerous.

[escapedmoose]

If helicopter parenting is trending up while traffic accidents including kids are trending down, isn’t that more likely to be evidence in favor of helicopter parenting?

[Filligree]

Helicopter parenting doesn't account for the decrease in accidents involving adults.

[dns_snek]

Only if you optimize for survival and survival alone.

[w-ll]

Thats an intersting chart, and i conced doesnt align with my anecdotal data. Can you like the source post or data for this data?

I dont think its the scary boogy man of people snaching kids, but really drivers just on their phones, but hard to tell.

[Barrin92]

yes here's the source: https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/child...

[w-ll]

is this not about crash death for children inside the vehicle?

> crash deaths occur among children traveling as passenger vehicle occupants

just like most/all auto safty crash reports are about the occupants, not the meat popsicle they might hit

[Barrin92]

as it literally says both on the page and graph, both pedestrian and occupant numbers are down, surprisingly child pedestrian deaths fell at a quicker rate.

Seventy-eight percent of child motor vehicle crash deaths in 2021 were passenger vehicle occupants, 15 percent were pedestrians, and 2 percent were bicyclists. Child pedestrian and bicyclist deaths declined by 91 and 95 percent, respectively, since 1975. Passenger vehicle child occupant deaths in 2021 were 48 percent lower than in 1975.

[lotsofpulp]

Would this data be affected by the number of kids trending down?

[hunter-gatherer]

>...it sucks everwhere.

So true.