[hinkley]

I think we should stop factoring our tires. EVs chew through tires because they’re heavy as hell.

If we play at being objective and get caught leaving bits out, people shut down and label you a liar.

I presume brakes and tires partially cancel out, depending on car model. Some vehicles do engine braking automatically (mine does).

[galcerte]

SUVs are being sold like candy, and they are heavier than your regular sedan. This is especially so in the US, where it's not just SUVs but also trucks, and they are both bigger and heavier than in Europe. Being heavy is not exclusive to EVs.

[smileysteve]

Tire store source tells me it's not just the weight, but many drivers are aggressively regenerative breakers and enjoy their aggressive acceleration as well.

We didn't hear about tire wear as much on the Nissan leaf.

We've taken 5% of cars that had 7+ second 0-60 times and replaced them with 3 second 0-60 cars. And we've removed the most direct cost of that acceleration (fuel).

[simplyluke]

Tires are also super expensive. Reading my maintenance logs, in all but one year of the prior 5 of ownership with my ICE doubling my tire interval would have been more expensive than all other maintenance. 2016 4Runner for reference, and I do most of the labor myself.

[kwhitefoot]

> EVs chew through tires because they’re heavy as hell.

Nonsense most EVs are very similar in weight to their ICE counterparts. My Model S weighs about 2 100 kg, a comparable sized ICE car such as an S-class Mercedes weighs slightly less to slightly more depending on which options you specify.

[alvah]

Oh come on. EVs have many advantages, but "most EVs are very similar in weight to their ICE counterparts" is straight-up untrue.

Model S Long Range: 510lb heavier than a BMW 540i XDrive Model 3 Performance 379lb heavier than a BMW 330i XDrive Rivian R1S weighs over 7200lb. University of Leeds study (UK): electric cars are 312 kilograms (688 pounds) heavier on average than comparable vehicles powered by gasoline engines.

[kwhitefoot]

Link to the study?

[alvah]

The figure was published at https://www.autoevolution.com/news/bevs-could-also-damage-ro..., and of course they didn't provide a link to the study :(

The figure may be taken from the Large Cars section of table 2 in this study (though the average weight difference given in the table is actually 433kg): https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353150136_Comparati...

[slaw]

Why do you compare Tesla Model S to a luxury car? Model S is not comfortable, it is noisy, has low quality interior. Is it because it is expensive? Any Ferrari is more expensive and it is not a luxury car.

Tesla Model S has smaller interior than Camry.

Tesla Model S - 4,561 lb.

Toyota Camry - 3,340 lb.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-comparisons/?veh1=401921012&veh2...