[renewiltord]

Dude, there is no way I'm going to get shrooms legalized by saying I want it for fun. It's too hard to get support for. It's much easier to place this fig leaf in front: look at these suffering people with mental illness; here's some evidence that it heals them; look at this grandma who has less pain; look at this grandpa who doesn't have seizures.

Marijuana legalization used the same strategy: medical first, then complete. The technique works. The other technique of "Oh yeah, I want it for fun so you should let me do it" has been tried for eons and got nowhere. You can come up with all the theory, but one technique worked and the other didn't, so I'm not interested in the theory.

Fake science it's going to be. The people who hate it don't have the ability to tell that it's fake.

[kbelder]

No, some of us know it's a completely fake argument, know that people just want it for fun, even support legalization, and still hate the liars.

The amount of half-braindead pot smokers earnestly talking about their medical need to get stoned is so irritating. Legalization happened despite them, not because of them.

[renewiltord]

Both you and I know that your support or hate are limited to comments on the Internet. No one really worries about that moving the needle. When the thing is done, you'll fall into line with the new norms. I doubt anyone is that concerned one way or another.

[somestag]

I don't agree with them, but I don't agree with you either. Spreading fake science and medicine is fundamentally harmful to society, and doing it just because you want to trip legally is not a good enough excuse. This is like a textbook example of the ends not justifying the means, and it's from the same playbook that big pharma uses.

[renewiltord]

Well, everyone hates Big Pharma and gives them what they want, and everyone agrees with honest legalization efforts and doesn't give them anything. You're welcome to aim to be loved. I aim to get what I want.

And come on, healthcare requires you to lie. The head of the NIAID famously lied about mask efficacy in order to get what he wanted and people backed him for it. I don't see myself as any different.