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by mschuster91 954 days ago
> Nuclear is expensive because of overregulation. There is no free market when it comes to nuclear, unfortunately.

And for good reason. There is no power generation that has a potential for serious damage compared to nuclear. The cost of Chernobyl was at least 235 billion dollars [1], Fukushima is estimated to end up at around 200 billion dollars [2]. The only other kind of power generation that can destroy entire swaths of land in a single strike is dammed hydro, but even the largest catastrophe to date, the Kakhovka dam destruction in Ukraine, cost only 14 billion dollars [3] - and it didn't render the affected land permanently uninhabitable and only cost the lives of about 50 people, compared to Chernobyl's death toll.

It's utter madness to risk this much money and this much destruction when there are so many different ways of getting power. Nuclear power may be the cheapest per kWh on paper, but that is only because the worst-case risk is implicitly assumed by the government without accounting for it in insurance premiums - at least the major Western countries limit operator exposure to liability claims to a fraction of the potential cost [4]. This is beyond unsustainable, it's financial russian roulette.

We will not be able to live entirely without NPPs, I agree on that one, as we need them to create Co-60 for radiotherapy sources and the nuclear weapon powers to get new feedstock to maintain the warheads, but we should try as a species to get rid of nuclear weapons anyway and only keep the minimum we need for radiotherapy and fundamental research.

[1] https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/chernobyl...

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK253929/

[3] https://www.voanews.com/a/un-reports-staggering-14-billion-c...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_nuclear_power_pla...

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> There is no power generation that has a potential for serious damage compared to nuclear

Of course there is. Good old oil, coal and gas burning. Since we’re fear-mongering on potentials here, would you like to estimate the cost of a runaway green house effect that turns the whole Earth into Venus? Climate scientists are warning we may already be beyond that point of no return. And we are still putting CO2 into the atmosphere while arguing the “potential” dangers of nuclear!

> And we are still putting CO2 into the atmosphere while arguing the “potential” dangers of nuclear!

We're building renewable generation capacity at a far greater speed (as said, Germany alone > 1GW a month...) than we ever could using nuclear power. This in turn enables us to shift residential and commercial heating to heat pumps - even assuming a gas power plant, 1 kWh of electric power replaces 4 kWh of heat power.

Let me know when you start closing fossil fuel power plants like you closed your nuclear ones. So far you’ve just restarted some coal-fueled ones until the LGN terminal is done next year. And that terminal will bring in GAS, not solar or wind. [0]

Till then - you’re selling pretty dreams, while in reality killing people and dooming the planet.

[0] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-approves-bri...

I totally forgot that now insurance, or re-insurance company is willing to insure against that risk. I am sure that is because those companies a anti-nuclear environmentalists and it has nothing to do with their risk models showing nuclear power plants to be uninsurable from a risk / profit perspective.