[voski]

What do you mean the Tesla standard is coming to most brands?

I was under the impression that Tesla is introducing new stations that have CCS chargers. Either with multiple cables or an adapter. You start the station using the Tesla mobile app.

It’s in beta available in certain locations

[zamfi]

In Europe, yes. In, fact, European Teslas all come with CCS connectors now.

In the USA, though, nearly every major vehicle manufacturer has announced a transition to NACS, the Tesla connector standard.

[bryanlarsen]

To be more precise, NACS uses the Tesla physical connector but the CCS signalling protocol.

In consequence:

1: Cars with CCS Type 1 connectors can use a dumb physical adapter to connect to a NACS charger.

2: Older Tesla's (prior to ~2020 depending on model) need a $400 retrofit to be able to charge at non-Tesla NACS chargers. (The $400 retrofit includes a CCS Type 1 adapter, so it might eventually be cheaper without it).

[ajross]

To clarify #2: the retrofit is the newer controller board that speaks CCS. This is the same thing they've been offering as a "CCS upgrade". It's otherwise unrelated to the NACS switchover, though obviously those are CCS-protocol devices and thus work with it.

[andrewmunsell]

It's actually both, at least in the US.

Tesla has the "Magic Dock", which is the built-in CCS adapter that unlocks when you use the app with a non-Tesla car. This is rolling out in a few places.

The other thing is that "NACS" (North American Charging Standard, the same physical plug that Teslas use but with the CCS protocol, with some minor backwards compatible changes for optional higher voltages) is being adopted by almost every EV brand, beginning ~2025. Further, these same brands have committed to providing or selling NACS-CCS adapters to existing cars so they can use Tesla chargers, even without buying a new model of car.

[fjskk333a]

You're like 1 year behind the news. Last year Tesla was adding CCS chargers. They have like 5 now. This year, Ford and others promised to use Tesla plugs on their vehicles and Tesla promised to open their network to other manufactures. "Old" CCS vehicles will use CCS-Tesla adapters.