[ben_w]

2: governments can legislate against against anything, but this feels like the other side of the same coin as pro cryptographic freedom: you're trying to ban maths.

We can, and IMO should, ban this type data use in commercial and party political contexts, but that isn't going to do anything to stop criminals and foreign governments doing these same things for their own commercial and political goals.

We need a milieu where we can survive that.

[rmellow]

Agreed, I meant this in a commercial and political context.

Banning research is entirely different.