[DonHopkins]

Changing society back to 1950's and 1860's values is what conservatives want, and that's not progress, so your definition is wrong. When progressives finally succeed at canceling slavery and making racism unacceptable in public discourse (at least until Trump came along), conservatives aren't suddenly progressive just because they want to change that. They're fundamentally regressive.

[lelanthran]

Two, three, or even 500 examples of change being progress does not in any way mean that all change is progress.

Which is what I said