[meeuwer]

And again moving the moral goalposts. One minute it's an existential struggle between good and evil, the next minute it's "well, it's a gray area, you actually are allowed to shell nuclear power plants, everything that's gonna happen is on your enemy anyway, and as a bonus we'll keep our mouth shut about any inconvenient evidence, mkay?". Seems more like one sports team versus another one looking to bend the rules a little.

That's my problem. One can't have their moral cake and eat it too.

[ceejayoz]

No, it’s not a moral grey area. Russia shouldn’t be in Ukraine. They bear the responsibility of that invasion.

[justsomehnguy]

I assume you have a similar standing on the presence of USA in Middle East? Or this doesn't work this way for you?

[ceejayoz]

I wouldn’t really equate Ukraine with Hussein or the Taliban, but yes, the US bears huge responsibility for the mess there.

[justsomehnguy]

It's amusing what you can't spill 'USA shouldn't have been in ME'.

[ceejayoz]

“I am mad you didn’t answer the question I didn’t ask.”

No, the US shouldn’t be in the Middle East in a military capacity. It hasn’t done the world much good there.

[justsomehnguy]

> in a military capacity

"But overthrowing the democratically elected governments, meddling with politics and financing gallant people is fine, because it's not our boots on the ground who dies there"