[ta1243]

The fight is never over.

That's why we have strong checks and balances, the commission (made up of appointees of the 26 EU government heads) will push things, the council (made up of those heads) have to agree, and the Parliament (made up from a popular vote) has to agree, then if all that fails the courts step in

But the fight isn't as much against the government, it's the hearts and minds of the people to make them care more about their own privacy and security rather than "someone think of the children".

[jliptzin]

I don’t think the average person cares about privacy, sadly. “I have nothing to hide,” etc. The best argument I heard against this crazy policy (only heard recently during these hearings) was that many creators/sharers of this CSAM material is kids themselves! Young teens exploring their sexuality, swapping nudes with each other. So that means that if you’re scanning all messages and you come across one of these chats, instead of that conversation staying between the 2 teens (like it should), it’s getting scanned by the provider, flagged, uploaded upstream to some law enforcement center where god knows how many other people are going to be looking at it, only to realize that there was no abuse happening. And of course that comes with the risk of leaks/hacks/rogue employees spreading it even further. Completely insane!

[nonrandomstring]

> The fight is never over.

Checks and balances are working this time hopefully. Regardless our (good) multi-stage processes and multi-chamber structure and even, regardless matters of lobbying and money - in the moment of quiet while smoke is still on the wind - look for the shooter. "Who wants this?" and "What are their fears?" leads to a better leverage point closer to values than parameters.

There are a lot of people in the world right now anxious about the digital future. The EU Commission seem to hear too much from Chicken-Licken's gang of sky-repellant gizmo salesmen and not from calmer humane optimists.

[ta1243]

I can't see any specific benefit to this for a corporation, my feeling is it's a political response to a general disquiet with the tech industry abusing people, along the lines of "something must be done, this is something, therefore this must be done"

I'm sure some companies would make a fortune, but their lobbying power would be outweighed by other multinational companies like whatsapp and smaller companies like mullvad.