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by 0xDEAFBEAD 949 days ago
>That othering starts with words, and the political right are those using those words, and ideologies, far more often than the political left.

That's not obvious. Here is one US college professor (well-known open borders libertarian) on what he sees on campus: https://betonit.substack.com/p/orwellian-othering

>The left tends to other based on opinion, which while still bad, is a far cry from actually argueing for interning said others in camps, excluding them from voting, access to health care...

An editor for Huffington Post South Africa defended a post she published arguing that white men shouldn't be allowed to vote, saying: "[The] underlying analysis about the uneven distribution of wealth and power in the world is pretty standard for feminist theory". https://qz.com/africa/966763/huffington-post-south-africa-ed... What does that tell you about feminist theory?

In any case, the most important point is: I've never seen Elon Musk argue for interning others in camps, excluding people from voting, or excluding people from access to health care. In my eyes, your argument makes about as much sense as me saying that you should be banned from Hacker News because you sound vaguely communist, and Joseph Stalin killed a lot of people.

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I never argued for banning Musks opinion, and I wont. Regarding the radical feminist in South Africa, call.me again when she has a realistic shot at becoming President there Sure, Musk didn' propose camps as far as I can tell. He is, squarely by his own words, in the right leaning political camp in the US. Amd the current front runner for the presidencial candidacy of that camp called for all of those things, publicly, during a rally on Veterans Day.

Also, one opinion piece regarding the rescriction of voting, which is just a nut job idea, is quite different from gerryandering, reducing poling places and planning to impeach judges wjo said they don'z like gerrymandering (which actually is a thing, multiple courts in the US threw out district maps because of it). Actions weigh heavier than words, always.

Funny that you think I'm leaning communist, were I live my political opinion is somewhere left / social liberal of the center but a far cry from the left extreme of the political spectrum. No surprise so, it just shows the difference between the US and Europe.

>He is, squarely by his own words, in the right leaning political camp in the US.

I remember him tweeting a meme to the effect of: "My political opinions have stayed the same while the left has gotten more and more radical"

>Amd the current front runner for the presidencial candidacy of that camp called for all of those things, publicly, during a rally on Veterans Day.

Has Musk ever endorsed Trump?

>Also, one opinion piece regarding the rescriction of voting, which is just a nut job idea, is quite different from gerryandering, reducing poling places and planning to impeach judges wjo said they don'z like gerrymandering (which actually is a thing, multiple courts in the US threw out district maps because of it). Actions weigh heavier than words, always.

I'm against these illiberal ideas in the same way that I'm against illiberal ideas from the left. I haven't seen Elon Musk show any support for them either.

>Funny that you think I'm leaning communist, were I live my political opinion is somewhere left / social liberal of the center but a far cry from the left extreme of the political spectrum. No surprise so, it just shows the difference between the US and Europe.

I don't think you're a communist. From my perspective, the mistake you're making is akin to the mistake of blaming social democrats for the actions of communists. I was trying to explain that to you in a way that you'd understand.

After all, squarely by your own words, "my political opinion is somewhere left / social liberal of the center". Need I say more? :-)