[prmoustache]

Why do you need a "specific keyboard" if your muscle memory is there? Just map it to whatever works for you.

I am typing all the time in us alt international on various physical keyboards that have printed buttons in spanish qwerty, swiss french qwertz and plain ansi us keyboards. It is only a problem for those that have very little experience/use of the keyboard.

[Cu3PO42]

Because muscle memory breaks if the physical layout of the keys is different. The parent is used to ANSI and might hit enter where there's a different key on ISO. I am used to ISO and my layout uses that key as a modifier and is barely usable on ANSI, simply because moving my pinky to the key above enter is uncomfortable for me.

[prmoustache]

We are much more adaptive than that. Among all my computers keyboards at home I have 4 different shape of the enter key and among the 2 that have a similar ANSI shape they don't have nearly the same size.

You'll always have your favorite physical layout but muscle memory can also adapt. The same way I don't ride my mountain bikes the same way I ride my road bikes I am naturally and unconsciously adapting to the different keyboards based on how they feel to my hands.

[Philpax]

I agree. I use an Apple ANSI Magic Keyboard, MacBook Pro with Swedish layout, and a Keyboardio Atreus on a regular basis, and I can switch between them without trouble.

There’s definitely a bit of an adjustment period when I (re)introduce a keyboard into the rotation, but I can get back to proficiency within a day or two, and then I don’t notice it at all.

[alexeiz]

> We are much more adaptive than that.

Sure if I get this laptop for free I may adapt. But for $1500, thank you!

[bjakubski]

It is not possible to "just map": Enter key has completely different shape and size and pushes backslash/pipe key to different row. I'm used to ANSI with single row Enter and I don't seem to be able to switch to ISO (in the past I was forced to order and replace keyboard in my laptop because of that)

[prmoustache]

See my other reply above, we are much more adaptive than that.

[FirmwareBurner]

Not all of us, "we" are not. If it works for you great, but "we" agree to disagree here.

[justsomehnguy]

If "you" are so different species, I'm looking with horror to the day when you need to replace your car.

Come on, button shape and placement (which is not that different, there is no round Caps Lock on Backspace) completely breaking the ability to work on the computer is the most retarded First World Problem.

[FirmwareBurner]

>I'm looking with horror to the day when you need to replace your car

Which car of yours did ever swap the positions and shapes of the 3 pedals or the steering wheel?

Every (manual) car I ever drove had left pedal always clutch, middle one brake, and right one was the loud pedal and steering wheel was always in front of me and somewhat round shaped.

So what's there to adapt to when changing cars? At least use some good analogies if you want to play this game.

>completely breaking the ability to work on the computer is the most retarded First World Problem

Where did I say it's completely breaking the ability to work on the computer?

It's not, but it's annoying enough to affect my productivity, kind of like a rock in my shoe, and enough for me to prefer to stick to my ISO layout wherever I can.

But you do you, and let me do me. Peace out.

[lproven]

> Which car of yours did ever swap the positions and shapes of the 3 pedals or the steering wheel?

Every time I go from the UK or Ireland to continental Europe. The entire set of controls are on the other side of the vehicle, and some are mirrored (e.g. gear shift on the left or the right) and some aren't (e.g. the layout of the pedals). So I adapt.

Every time I switch from a manual to an automatic or back.

Works for keyboards, too.

When I type on PCs, the leftmost or rightmost key is Ctrl, the one next to the spacebar is Windows/Super, and the one in between them as Alt.

When I type on a Mac keyboard, I use the one next to the spacebar as Alt, the leftmost/rightmost as Cmd, and the one in between as Ctrl.

The key switch feel tells me which I'm typing on.

Switching between US and ISO layouts is similar.

This is not that hard.

[cardiffspaceman]

I borrowed a car that did not have a stick supporting the gear selector. Instead the gear was selected by a slide switch in the plane of the top of the center console. In my muscle memory, that is not where that function is.

What do I win in exchange for getting accustomed to this?

[justsomehnguy]

> What do I win in exchange for getting accustomed to this?

Ask the shitheads placing PrtScr in the place of ContextMenu?

But this is irrelevant, TS states:

> I'm used to ANSI with single row Enter and I don't seem to be able to switch to ISO (in the past I was forced to order and replace keyboard in my laptop because of that

The size and form of the steering wheel, pedals and stick varies, yet they are located in the same place on a half-liter ultracompact and on a 5t lorry.

Since 90s I had used all the types of keyboards, with wildly different Enter-key shapes, with different "/" key placement, even with Escape being not the leftmost key. I used keyboards without any marks (and that wasn't Das Keyboard) and I used all the kinds of shitty keyboards (not including notebook ones). Aaaand I used all the notebook keyboards what some fuck decided to fuck with layout with absolutely no fucking reason. Oh, and let's not forget the greatest invention in 21st century: replacing the Function keys with whatever shitty function by default, because you reaaaaallly need to change the volume, monitor brightness, enable\disable wireless network and change the output to the external screen every couple of seconds, yes? Even the notebook in the topic has the power button where it should not be at all and which would actually break my muscle memory, because most sane notebook layouts have the Delete key there.

But I never ever had the trouble finding the Enter key on those keyboards. And I never had the trouble to actually adapt even to the shittiest keyboards. Well, except this PrtScr shit on the ThinkPads but even them.

Claiming a human being can't adapt to a slightly different form of the Enter key is like claiming what you can't drive the car because the steering wheel is slightly smaller than in your previous car.

[littlecranky67]

Exactly. They even offer a "complete black keyboard" with no letterprints at all - definitely aimed at power users.

[dajonker]

The difference between ISO and ANSI is the physical layout, i.e. the shape of the Enter key and the left shift key.