[schmorptron]

I agree on the spacing part, but it's not fair to complain about it and not submit actual solutions to them.

Have you tried getting to know their contribution process, looking at their current design guidelines and submitting a new, well-thought-out and complete design guideline proposal to KDE? Having someone who notices the current problems with that aspect, like you, actually do the work and help fix it could really make a difference! :)

[walteweiss]

I would really like to step up here (not joking), but I am yet to understand the process and explore KDE once again. I do like it generally, but visually it’s a mess. I use swaywm on my Arch laptop and pure Gnome 45 on a couple of my Fedora 39 PCs (work and home ones).

Would appreciate if someone can help me to get quicker at understanding with their system, so I can actually contribute and not just complain about it being inconsistent here and there. Even though I not use KDE myself, I use it from time to time on other’s machines and enjoy playing with it. I would consider a switch only if the DE would highly reconsider itself towards simplifying and making other defaults. At the moment, Gnome looks like it to me.

[schmorptron]

That's great! (i mean this unironically in case that came off sarcastic)

I'm not a kde contributor myself, but they seem to have a matrix channel for that purpose at [ https://webchat.kde.org/#/room/#new-contributors:kde.org ], where the contributors themselves can probably point you to the relevant resources and get started.

About your second point: From what I've been reading on their blog, a large focus of Plasma 6 is making the defaults more sane and simplifying them a good bit.

It's obviously a huge challenge to design systems that are simple and polished to understand and use on the surface, but powerful to customize underneath, and I'm interested to see how it will be tackled.

Edit: Also on this site [ https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved ] they point to resources for the KDE Visual Design group

[walteweiss]

Thank you! It will take time, but I will come there eventually.

[fbdab103]

Not OP, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. I can not like Transformers without having a ten-point plan for how to make it a passable movie^.

^ While writing this, I came up with loads of concrete suggestions relating to Transformers, but kind of beside the point.*