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by NoMoreNicksLeft 955 days ago
I also like the Emergents. Liberal progressives creating a utopia. 100% employment, palaces made out of diamond for everyone.
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The Emergent "utopia" is both horrifying and eerily believable. I've known some grad students and some tech workers who are way too close already.

But it's reallly strange to try to map the Emergent political structure onto any modern political axis. It's not "liberal progressive" or "traditional conservative" or "libertarian". Or any other popular political ideology. It's certainly authoritarian, but uniquely so. It's almost a dystopia run by project managers and exploiting specialists.

Also a fun bit: The traders in the book count base their epoch on the first moon landing, but if you pay attention, the lowest levels of software count from a different epoch.

They merely got confused... thousands of years from now, they assume unix epoch time is based on the moon landing. And it's only a few months off anyway. Not much is left of Earth as far as they know, to be able to properly understand that those were two different events.

The Emergents are what they are, because they are, at the most fundamental level, busybodies who want to control others. Sometime in their own history, they found an excuse (the Emergency) to do that, and they never stopped doing it even after the crisis was over. In this way they map to most other authoritarian regimes in reality, but especially to the leftist authoritarian regimes. They hate "peddlers" after all, who sell things to others at fair prices and of their own free will. Not unlike the mutterings you see all over social media concerning capitalism.

That sounds more like a "The Giver" style distopia
Spoiling the joke, but the Emergents are very clearly dystopian and NoMoreNicksLeft knows it ;)

Definitely give the book a read! One of my favorites.