[div72]

> When are we going to talk about how openly corrupt Mozilla has become?

It's routinely discussed on HN, whenever a topic about Mozilla/browsers comes up. The real question in my opinion is what can we do about it? Start an awareness campaign? Stop using Firefox? Stop donating to Mozilla?

[maleldil]

> Stop using Firefox?

And use what? A Chromium reskin and give up the web to Google?

Mozilla has (many) problems, but it remains the main organisation fighting for the open web.

[unflxw]

I'd argue that the EFF is the main organization fighting for the open web.

[maleldil]

The EFF is great and important too, but I feel like developing a competitive browser has more direct impact.

[unflxw]

I agree, but that's a very generous description of what Mozilla is doing. I'd say they're less "developing a competitive browser" and more "keeping an uncompetitive browser on life support to continue to profit off it".

[Aeolun]

> Mozilla has (many) problems, but it remains the main organisation fighting for the open web.

Well, it’s a different organisation from MS and Google anyway. I’m not sure how much I’d say they’re fighting for an open web, so much as I’d say they’re fighting for their slice of it. But the end result is more or less the same.

[GuB-42]

There is not much we can do ourselves, they are hurting themselves more than we can hurt them.

We don't want to punish the corrupt, we want to save Firefox from them. If would be great if some organization could fork Firefox and work with Servo to make a usable browser, but that's going to be really expensive, and the new browser will have to make a name for itself. Also the organization will have to do better than Mozilla in terms of corruption, which, again, is not a given when a lot of money is involved.