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by cyberax 960 days ago
OK. What if a company wants to close a plant, because it's not profitable enough? It's also an organized (corporate) action, so it must be disallowed?
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One of those is a business decision about what to do with their private property the other is an external actor demanding what you do with your private property.
One is a business decision, the other one is people exercising their rights.
People don't have rights over others private property that's the of the basis of human rights.
The company control their private property. The labour can only control their own labour, so they choose to use that control. How is that not in their right?
I totally agree, they all have the right to not work there, but they don't really have a right to prevent others from delivering packages to a building.
Nobody is preventing that. Other workers _voluntarily_ refuse to provide their services to Tesla.
Yes, but people still have the right to say "Pay us $X and ensure safe working conditions or we strike" Tesla can either withdraw or negotiate. Nobody's right is infringed here, it's just free market. Especially as usually the workers have it worse than companies.
> People don't have rights over others private property

Have the workers looted Tesla's plants? Are they burning down Tesla cars in transit?

No?

Then fuck off. Workers are simply negotiating for a fair price for THEIR private property - the labor services that they provide.

> the other is an external actor demanding what you do with your private property.

And why is that bad? You've just described a negotiation between two private parties. In any negotiation, parties try to get their counterparty to do something with their property.

Workers are negotiating with the company about the sale of private property that they possess (aka "labor services"). Of course, workers can also organize together, it's simply an exercise in free speech.

Heck, it's as libertarian as it can be.