[VoxPelli]

Yeah, the idea of the Swedish model being that it’s better for employers and workers union to decide details as then they can be adapted to the need of every specific field rather than be dictated by the government and be the same for all.

Makes for a much more agile, progressive and cooperative environment that benefits both businesses and workers.

Unions in Sweden don’t try to get paid the most possible by the employers – they want fair wages and healthy companies and together with employer organizations they try to make up rules that benefit both, as healthy companies and happy workers are beneficial for all parties

[DanielHB]

I had 3.5% union-agreed raise this year against an almost 10% inflation year-on-year. In Sweden the unions are not out to screw the employers over, the unions know the companies are under stress due to market downturn and share the burden with employees.

Before the downturn I consistently had at least 1% raise above inflation for several years.

[dv_dt]

That seems like it supports the principle of shared pain and shared profit and it’s good that the laws and company/union structure supports that. I think it’s better for stable long term stability and growth of a nation.

[Moru]

Can you tell Musk etc this? They havn't gotten the message yet. McDonads got it after trying on the Danish union though and is playing ball.