[globalrev]

"I don't think so, not beyond your very first couple of jobs." And how long is that, 5-10years?

And for the really attractive jobs, do you even get a shot if straight out of college if you are not from a top one(often you don't either how because of no experience but when you do)?

Don't want to bash the point though. Effort > talent, I agree.

[jerf]

It depends on a lot of things.

In computer science, if you're trying to go into a programming career, the difference between a prestigious college and a non-prestigious college is significantly less than the advantage you get from having proof of coding skill, such as significant open source work. Anyone serious about programming should definitely make sure to have something like this in hand before they leave, if they want the good opportunities.

Of course, side project + prestigious college is a winning combo... but even then, I'd say it's the side project dominating for most good employers.

I would imagine in fields where the means of production (whatever they may be) are not so much in the hands of the masses that the college distinction could be more important; how do you prove yourself a competent civil engineer with a side project? (I dunno, maybe there's a way, but it must be a lot harder.)

[nihilocrat]

Anyone serious about programming should definitely make sure to have something like this in hand before they leave, if they want the good opportunities.

Every college freshman should be told this repeatedly. It is too easy to miss out on that bit of information and think that getting good grades and graduating is enough to land you a job out of college.