[throw932490]

Contraceptive pill simulates pregnancy at hormonal levels. That includes partner selection and preferences. Imagine your partner is on a pill while you date, you get married and try for kids. She stops pill and there is a huge change in her chemistry .

It also stops ovulation. It plays a huge role in female sexuality, to the point some people have trouble to orgasm.

[dragonwriter]

> Contraceptive pill simulates pregnancy at hormonal levels. That includes partner selection and preferences. Imagine your partner is on a pill while you date, you get married and try for kids. She stops pill and there is a huge change in her chemistry .

I have no problem imagining this, since it is, in fact, exactly what happened for me and my wife. (Not the only "huge change" in her or my chemistry, either -- weight changes and pregnancy and giving birth and COVID and... well, lots of things change body chemistry a lot.)

Not sure why you are saying this like it is something particularly alarming, though.

[fragmede]

The "alarming", if charmingly idiotic bro-science read of that, is that as soon as the wife is off the hormonal contraceptive pill, they will stop wanting to have sex, and additionally, realize they don't actually like their partner, and that it was the just drugs talking.

[WarOnPrivacy]

> Imagine your partner is on a pill while you date, you get married and try for kids. She stops pill and there is a huge change in her chemistry.

Why imagine this?

[toomuchtodo]

We want to believe attraction and desire is more free will then it is (vs hormones and brain chemistry), and there is uncertainty of whether a relationship will persist when birth control use changes.

https://behavioralscientist.org/quality-sex-relationships-bi...

> But an even bigger positive is what comes when we look at the divorce rate. Despite the whole my-sex-life-is-meh-and-I-am-not-that-attracted-to-my-partner thing, women who chose their partners when they were on the pill were significantly less likely to divorce than women who chose their partners when they were off it (!!!).

> This suggests that being on the pill may lead women to choose partners who are good resource providers and willing to stick with them through thick and thin (hence the lower divorce rate and greater satisfaction with resource investment). However, equally as noteworthy, this research found that when these pill-taking women did get divorced, they were overwhelmingly the ones who initiated it (they were the initiators 84.5 percent of the time, compared to being the initiators 73.6 percent of the time among those who chose their partners when not on the pill). This suggests that, in choosing these faithful, resource-investing men as partners (and at the expense of sexiness), pill-taking women may be putting themselves at risk for becoming dissatisfied with their relationship due to a lack of attraction and sexual satisfaction if they ever go off of it.

Emphasis is author's.

[WarOnPrivacy]

> It plays a huge role in female sexuality, to the point some people have trouble to orgasm.

You're just pumping in outliers here. What are you trying to achieve with this?

[throw932490]

Stats give that to around 15%, it is not an outlier.

Side effect from hormonal pills is not some sort of conspiracy. Go to feminist forum and ask about it.

[WarOnPrivacy]

> Stats give that to around 15%, it is not an outlier.

What stats? Fifteen percent of what - time? women? sexual events? Is this even about climax?

Of all the things that can inhibit climax for women, why should contraception be singled out for elevated concern?

[throw932490]

Can we say that women who ovulate, are more horny and more likely to orgasm?

[Broken_Hippo]

12 year olds ovulate and have cycles. Post-menopausal folks don't ovulate, yet can still be horny and still orgasm. So do folks that have had surgery to remove their ovaries. And so do folks that ovulate irregularly. Many women who ovulate regularly aren't all that horny (I've met them, and I'm happily not one of them) and some women go large chunks of their life, having children and jobs and everything, but rarely orgasm. Other women aren't realistically pain-free or worry-free enough without birth control to manage to be horny and/or orgasm. Needless to say: Ovulating doesn't mean more horny and more likely to orgasm.

Hormones/ovulation are only part of the story.

[slowmovintarget]

Not without evidence we can't.

[dragonwriter]

We can say anything,

Whether it is a justified belief on average is another question.