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by minimaul 959 days ago
This site is actually pretty useless imo - I have a static IP, I've had it for years, and I'm the only user of the IP.

It shows me as recently torrenting a ton of content that I've never even heard of, and definitely haven't done.

Either someone's poisoning the data at trackers (TPB used to do this?), or they're just making stuff up...

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For me it shows nothing and I've definitely been downloading, sometimes even seeding, ... something ...
Same here. But for private trackers the traffic is basically “invisible” as the whole point of private trackers is to keep out snoopers and whatnot.

It’s kind of interesting how well these private, trust-based networks work. While there are some they get breached, based on my experience there are many that exist for decades and have thousands of strangers cooperating toward a common goal, in shared secret.

It gives me hope that humanity is largely “below the surface” of productive groups quietly meeting and doing stuff. And it’s not visible because they aren’t tweeting.

This gives me joy compared to the more visible alternative that the whole world is an idiot because idiots are constantly tweeting.

I've never thought about it this way but it makes a lot of sense. In a world where it looks like everyone is tweeting there are actually a lot of people not tweeting, you just don't hear about them because, well, they aren't tweeting!
I’m not sure the name of the fallacy, but there’s a common urge to assume what’s measurable is real. So in statistics you have to really design your sample well.

But frequently whatever is nearby can still be useful for selling ads or whatever so people get used to using it for everything.

Back in the olden days people would mock others who quoted a random twitterer who said “George Bush thinks xyz” but now that’s like half of all the news stories.

I too am seeing a bunch of downloads listed here, none of which are known to me. Either I've got some unauthorized use of my network or this data is invalid.

Clicking through on their site to the "IP List" for any of the entries it claims are associated with me, my address is not included there.

I have a static IP and all the torrents seen by iknowwhatyoudownload since October, 31 are definitely not mine. All the torrents before that day look familiar.
It seems legit for me and i've been on this static IP for 10 months and only downloaded some old NATGEO magazines that they're showing. I'd at least check no one is using your wireless, check the dates & see if someone is using a "free" VPN or something malicious?
I'm the only user on this internet connection, I am pretty restrictive with what I run, my Unifi controller shows no unexpected devices in the last month (and that covers the time window the site claims), and my librenms graphs of my router's interfaces don't show any traffic spikes at the times the site claims that a torrent client was last seen.

edit: and I've been the only user of this static IP for a decade at this point.

I'd say that's pretty conclusive?

Approximately the same case here. I'm thinking the dates are not completely precise. Also the site shows announces and tracker requests, so there's no need for the whole stuff to have been downloaded. Requesting torrent info through a magnet link should land you on this page.

I share an IP with one person but the stuff showed (a dozen or so torrents) does not really check out: porn and genshin impact stuff (pretty common I guess), series in Korean and Russian, movies in Italian.

I live in France, and neighbouring IPs show a few movies or video games in French. I'll definitely double check my networks and Unifi controller for unexpected connection or torrenting. Parts of my network are less secured than others, but I pay close attention to the traffic...

Fyi as a Unifi user who recently implemented IPv6, be wary a number of the intrusion and detection alerts apparently do not work when IPv6 is enabled -- won't even detect unencrypted http requests.

They have a 'demo' command on their Help site to test it (that a bunch of people in the forum report doesn't work with v6, for years) might be worth double checking!

Looking around for some explanation and ending up on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT I can only assume your public IP is actually shared with your neighbors and it's not you, your wife or a hackerman downloading naughty films.
No, I have my own /32, /28, and /29 of IPv4, along with a /48 of IPv6 :)

Definitely dedicated just to me.

The obvious explanation is the site is wrong.
It suowed me something thet I was torrenting, a pretty niche video game. So I doubt that its making stuff up.
Trackers do poison the data, but if a lot is showing up, then I'd doubt you are the only user of the IP or that your network is secure. I do use torrents, but only private sites, and there are zero data on my IP. Lots and lots of data on all the neighbouring IPs.
Any source on trackers poisoning this data? I assume if that were common, requesting a few blocks from a provided IP address could let you know if they're really seeding that torrent.

Adding fake entries from certain IP ranges would be quite funny, and a good example of the data not being trustworthy.

I read somewhere the Pirate bay did it, but I can't remember where. I'll add it if it turns up, but that was a long, long time ago.
Only 5 entries this time, so I favour poisoned data, personally.

edit: it always shows random stuff every time this one comes up!

I don't have a static IP but mine changes every few months, and the site is still accurate for me
Same, 99% of the list is complete nonsense for my static IP I've had for 10 years, and I guarantee no one is using this network I'm not aware of.
Chances are you're not the only person with that IP due to IPv4 exhaustion.

At least that's my theory.

Same here
The site has always been very reliable for me, so I have bad news for you.
So.... my wife is downloading "Weapons of Ass Destruction" 1, 2, 3, 6 and 7... and House Of Ass 8?
better than her jumping straight to 8 and being completely lost on the plot
Damn, she's a keeper
Or maybe your wifi is not as private as you think it is.
That was my initial thinking, but there are no unknown devices connected to the router. What I suspect has happened is that I've been given a new IP some time within the last few days and the data on the site isn't exactly live.

There might also be something in how the data is collected and how Bittorrent works, so some else had this IP a few days back and there are still Bittorrent clients that are trying to connect and that might be what the site is seeing.

Bittorrent might also be much more popular than I expected, because almost every IP around mine seems to be torrenting something. But I think it's due to short leases on IPs because it seems unlikely to me that 8 out 10 is using Bittorrent.

I think I need to start investigating what devices are connecting to my router since mine doesn't look accurate either.

Hopefully this is just false data and not my neighbours since I don't particularly want to know what porn they're downloading.

No, it's actually very unreliable. I haven't used BT in ages and yet it shows I've been downloading in the last 2 weeks.