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by hnshatup 959 days ago
> Currently based on the state of the world I have been investing in freeze dried foods. They will only increase in value and can be traded / bartered for other things should monetary systems temporarily fail.

This is where Bitcoin excels. You don't need storage rooms or containers for bitcoin. Invest in bitcoin and when the monetary system collapses, you will be rich. People will be lining up to buy bitcoins from you.

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I have to respectfully disagree with all of this. Should the monetary system be offline, then the internet and access to ledgers will likely be offline as well. Banks and bitcoin exchanges will be offline. The ledger servers run by whom? will also be offline. Even my fiat monetary cash on-hand will be worthless after a few days. Anything I do not already have in my storage rooms will be out of reach short of bartering or pillaging and given I am in the most heavily armed state the pillagers will be expeditiously removed.

Regarding the storage room comparison, storage rooms and money are orthogonal to one another. The closer comparison would be banks as that is where digital money is stored and physical currency is extracted. Digital fiat US currency and digital wallets will be equally useless to us in a grid or monetary down incident. Additionally bitcoin is an unregistered speculative investment and the numbers in crypto are less real than the fiat numbers in banks as it depends on organizations with no oversight. There is no insurance for such investments and this will matter more if and when we get just beyond a monetary collapse. To get money out of the ledgers requires exchanges which are basically banks with far less regulations and they are equally subject to a monetary collapse and do not insure investments with exception to the traditional banks that got involved in virtual currencies. Even if the internet were still viable I have no way to verify that an exchange isn't a bucket shop like FTX. The only value I could envision in bitcoin and their ilk is if I needed to do wash trading which is illegal. I've had enough battles with the IRS without virtual speculative unregistered unregulated investments being a part of the picture. I will be staying very far and away from such things. I could go on for hours why I would never use virtual speculative unregistered unregulated investments but that really belongs in a blog write-up and will just irritate the agency that created it who shall not be named.

> People will be lining up to buy bitcoins from you.

Except there hasn't been a single historical example pointing to people doing this after the collapse (partial or otherwise) of civilization.

After the fall of Rome, people used the currency (both bullion and as a measure of value) for a few decades after. If the US dollar collapses, you've got a litany of more pressing issues than "how can I pay for goods" and history shows that you'll probably just end up relying on social credit with people in your immediate community.

tl;dr invest in being a social-able person first, then learn how to grow your own food instead