[dataflow]

> No - it's not possible to avoid

What? Just go read the PayPal one. It says very clearly you can only bring arbitration cases on an "individual basis". Which was directly in response to this issue.

"Unless both you and PayPal agree otherwise, the arbitrator(s) may not consolidate or join more than one person’s or party’s claims and may not otherwise preside over any form of a consolidated, representative or class proceeding."

Edit: maybe PayPal was the wrong example here - I definitely saw clauses change after the Uber court case, but it seems the PayPal one had been there longer?

[munk-a]

That doesn't make PayPal immune to being overwhelmed by arbitration requests, it just requires clients to file separately (which they generally should be doing anyways).

[michaelt]

The situation people are thinking of here is when a large corporation has many, many people who are pissed at it for broadly the same reason.

For example, if there are 31,000 arbitration requests made by Uber Eats customers https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/uber-loses-appeal-b... or 12,500 arbitration requests made by Uber drivers https://gizmodo.com/ubers-arbitration-policy-comes-back-to-b... and each arbitration request costs Uber $1500-$3000 in fees.

[danbulant]

That means that multiple arbitration cases cannot be joined together - which is actually worse for them, as they have to pay a fee per case, so more cases means more fees to be paid.

[dataflow]

Why do you believe they added this clause if it's worse for them?