[CorrectHorseBat]

I'm not talking about 10k bikes, but also not supermarket bikes.

I said complexity and materials. An iPhone is extremely complex but it's only so cheap because electronics scale extremely well, probably only software does better.

Logically there should be more bikes than cars so the economy of scale should be in their favor. Bike maintenance isn't cheap either. Cars need to go through much more certification etc.

The more I think about it the less sense it makes. I think there's crazy competition on cars, but not on bikes.

[lm28469]

You can buy a basic city bike for <250 euros new: https://www.decathlon.fr/p/mp/moma-bikes/velo-trekking-hybri...

> Logically there should be more bikes than cars

There are twice as many cars than bikes in France from what I can find online, not sure about the rest of the world.

[CorrectHorseBat]

>You can buy a basic city bike for <250 euros new

A supermarket bike, not suitable if you're a bit serious and many repair shops will refuse to repair them because it's not worth it. For a decent bike you'd probably paying at least 3-4x more.

>There are twice as many cars than bikes in France from what I can find online, not sure about the rest of the world.

Google tells me worldwide daily production of bikes is 300.000 and cars 100.000. (IMO It would really be sad if it was otherwise)

[prmoustache]

> You can buy a basic city bike for <250 euros new

Fair point but what I meant in my initial post is even a top of the line Trek Slash doesn't have a quarter of the technology included in the lowest end Fiat Panda. Even the best e-bikes are still quite simple compared to a car.

And I say that as a bike nerd.