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by xfeeefeee 961 days ago
I've been going to raves and festivals since the 90s and the current culture is great! I mean yeah it's different but still pretty much the same. Reading some of the anecdotes here I can't help but think that people are glossing over the same issues in the past. And yeah it is true that DJs have become a centerpiece rather than someone behind the scenes... but the experience itself has evolved with amazing visual performance art, especially with all the LED stuff and lasers and etc that are so prolific now. I've seen people treated terribly 25 years ago and today; at the same time I've seen people being generous and caring as well. There is a huge difference as well for lgbtq people at these places, the inclusivity has dramatically improved.

Just saying, destroyed? Come on.

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I don't think you're based in Germany if that's your experience.

I linked two short documentaries in another comment, but basically:

tik tok kids don't adhere to safer drug use at all. Outfits and photos are not the worst thing. Overdoses are on a high. At the same time, looking out for each other is not something they tend to do. Especially at "illegal" raves, we have a very big problem of Gen Z not helping folks who feel unwell, leading to people dying on the floor. This is not a "the new generation is shit" argument. I despise tik tok ravers, not the gen z per se.

> There is a huge difference as well for lgbtq people at these places, the inclusivity has dramatically improved.

I don't understand where you're coming from. In Germany this was never a problem. Nobody gave a shit who you are and how you're dressed.

Yeah but like we used to come for the sound, not a light show.
Maybe you did. When I used to go to raves in the 90's, where I went it was all heavy on the light shows and people painted in fluorescent colours in response to it. The sound was part of it, but I could listen to music at home.
The whole concept around Thunderdome was as much visual as it was auditory, and the first Thunderdome was in 1992, none of it is new.
> There is a huge difference as well for lgbtq people at these places, the inclusivity has dramatically improved.

That is the total opposite to what is happening in German clubs