[matisseverduyn]

How apropos... this just happened to me today. "Walk" displays for 3 seconds, then "Don't walk" flashes for 36 seconds. Multiple drivers, completely ignoring the pedestrians, were turning right. One driver yelled out "that means don't walk" while a few of us were patiently waiting in the middle of the crosswalk (since we can't teleport).

Clearly just bad UX, since this would be solved by having "Walk" flash instead.

[Meekro]

While the UX isn't ideal, the driver's exam that everyone has to pass already covers this point -- "don't walk" flashing means finish crossing if you've already started. So the yelling driver is just wrong.

Would be nice to see cops aggressively ticketing drivers who turn right while pedestrians are trying to cross. At some of these intersections, it seems like you could just park a cop there all day and generate crazy money for the city.

[63]

It wasn't on my driver's exam iirc and it hasn't been that long since I took it.

[xboxnolifes]

Wasn't on my exam either. Half of my written test was things done so infrequently/never, that it was basically a joke. We took the exam in our high school, everyone crammed the questions and answers right before the test, and only one person failed.

[sneak]

Your mental model is wrong. Cops aren’t there to maximize revenue or enforce the law.

Multiple police officers in multiple towns in the US have told me they can’t write tickets for every traffic violation they see or the locals would turn against the police.

They are there to tax the most egregious offenders. It would be trivial for police officers to simply wait outside bars at 01:50 and breathalyze people every night driving home drunk, but they don’t. They’d be giving out a DUI every single night if they did that.

[atmavatar]

Sadly, that isn't enough.

On several occasions, I've walked into the crosswalk immediately after it changes to "Walk" and been honked at by a car that has nearly run me over. I've even experienced a few times where the next car wanting to turn right will follow closely behind the first, and I'm forced to go back and wait for the next light cycle... all while the sign still displayed "Walk".

As a result, there are a few intersections where I've accepted that I cannot cross regardless what the sign says so long as there are any cars waiting to turn right present.

[matisseverduyn]

Yep! Same. In that circumstance, at least, I'm able to point to the "Walk" and it's clear who's in the wrong. With a flashing "Don't walk" it's not immediately as obvious.

[AlexandrB]

People are just shit drivers. Nowhere I've visited has had flashing red mean "stop in place" for pedestrians. This is something drivers are making up from whole cloth.

[jumpkick]

I recall that scene from Rainman.

[mattmcknight]

isn't that a problem with right on green?

[matisseverduyn]

In this case, yes (although, their light does eventually turn red while time remains for pedestrians, yet drivers continue their flow into RoR).