[Retric]

Who says they can’t recover the full cost? Cars don’t last forever, bake the cost in upfront or charge a monthly fee.

[cheeselip420]

I'm not saying they can't - I'm saying they are running out of time to do so, and with the DMV shutting them down they've been hamstrung further.

They are burning 100s of millions every quarter. They needed to show either growth/expansion or some sort of positive cash flow. They now have neither.

[Retric]

Ahh ok that fair.

I don’t think Cruse is doing very well. I’m more thinking that the first nationwide level 5 system may have a human in the loop.