[ben_w]

Shooting just electrons out the back of your ship is fine for the brief period before your ship gains a positive electric potential comparable to the net potential those electrons experience due to the inside of the particle accelerator you were using, after which your ship's own field is a major source of drag.

If your ship has a positive electric potential of over 1.044 MeV[0], you also start getting positron-electron pairs forming on your hull.

[0] less in practice, because any electrons you're going to encounter were already moving

[moffkalast]

Don't ionic thrusters typically solve this problem by also emitting oppositely charged particles from a thin rod behind the motor? Maybe that still causes drag, but overall the main problem is that while the ISP is high, the thrust is almost non-existent.

[ben_w]

They do indeed; the oppositely charged particles being electrons. But there's no charged particles lighter than an electron, and the only one with the same mass is the positron. If you try to balance it with protons, then what you've really got is a slightly over-complicated hydrogen-based ion drive.

[klyrs]

Twin beta+ and beta- engines?

[ben_w]

First, you have a way to store an absurd quantity of positrons. For a sense of scale, without shielding the electric fields, 1 picogram of positrons (or electrons) confined within a 10 cm radius is going to trigger positron-electron pairs formation, thanks to free electrons in the area responding to the surface potential.

Second, AFAICT if you can do that then you're either going to want to use them as an energy source to propel your cheap reaction mass even harder than a fission rocket would, or you're going to want to react them with electrons to make a photon rocket.

[klyrs]

I proposed nickel-63 for my electron source. Let's say, aluminum-26?

And, yes. The idea is patently absurd. But I'm waiting on a ridiculously long compile.

[ben_w]

If you're getting them from radioactive decay, it works, but those examples are 63 and 26 times heavier than just using hydrogen as your reaction mass in the first place :)

[klyrs]

Hah, good ole rocket nerds, the general thrust of my concept here is not novel!

https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist2.ph...