[seszett]

> VW - been talking about EVs for years but ... nothing.

Well I think they're the third EV manufacturer in the world for 2023. BYD is first (I guess mostly in China), Tesla second and Stellantis (Peugeot, Fiat and some American brands I think) fourth.

Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes (didn't even know they made EVs but apparently they do) Toyota and the other brands I'm reading about in these comments are all much further down the charts, so I'm not sure what to think.

Maybe the American market is so different that most commenters here have a warped view of the actual EV market in the rest of the world

[Xixi]

BMW and Mercedes don't actually manufacture a lot of cars compared to other manufacturers. They go for margin rather than volume...

Total deliveries in 2022 (incomplete obviously, there are many other manufacturers): Toyota (10,483,024, including Daihatsu), Volkswagen Group (8,262,776), Stellantis (4,488,269), Hyundai (3,944,579), BMW (2,399,630), Mercedes (2,043,900), Tesla (1,313,851).