[stareatgoats]

> the Geneva Conventions do not allow a belligerent to intentionally use human shields

The proportionality rule ultimately requires a judgement call, like the thread you provided states. I understand that your call might be different than mine, but to me the evidence is clear: Israel is not paying appropriate heed to Article 57 §1: "In the conduct of military operations, constant care shall be taken to spare the civilian population, civilians and civilian objects."

You seem to think the massive toll on civilians and civilian objects (houses) is merely because Hamas is using them as shields, to me this tactic of Hamas' is now mainly an excuse used by IDF to terrorize to the point of obliteration a perceived hateful albeit civilian population, a strategy that has strong support in Israel after Hamas heinous attacks on October 7.

We can debate the finer points of this ad nauseam, but that would be missing the greater picture, which is that the Israeli army is now doing exactly what Hamas expected them to do. What we need now is to tell the Israelis to stop and reconsider, not provide them with further excuses for genocidal policies. The current trajectory is not in Israel's long term interests, nor those of the region or indeed the world.

[philwelch]

There’s no evidence that Israel is targeting the civilian population of Gaza. If they were, they wouldn’t have warned them to evacuate south of the Wadi over a week ago.

Hamas routinely places military targets such as rocket launch sites, headquarters, and weapons productions centers directly alongside and underneath civilian population centers. They do this to manipulate gullible people like you and they are succeeding. Israel is right not to care about such foolish opinions when Hamas has vowed to repeat the massacres of October 7 repeatedly as long as they exist. They are not the ones pursuing a genocidal policy.

[stareatgoats]

> gullible people like you

> foolish opinions

I understand. Instead of civil discourse you prefer to have ad hominem laden discussions about your insults and strawmen? A tactic commonly used in lieu of sound arguments as you may be aware. But granted, this issue is "too close to home" for some people, a level-headed discussion can be too much to ask for.

I guess we're done here. Have a nice day.

[philwelch]

You’re the one throwing around words like “genocide” and you’re going to complain and ignore my perfectly sound arguments because I said “gullible” and “foolish”? Give me a break. It’s a fact that Hamas deliberately uses human shields by placing their headquarters, rocket launch sites, and weapons productions facilities around and underneath civilian population centers. It’s also a fact that it’s these facilities, not the civilian population, that Israel has consistently targeted. You can’t address these facts so you get upset that I’m characterizing your opinions as “foolish”.