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by andy_xor_andrew 964 days ago
> Are you aware there are some malicious deviations already possible with AI ?

Alright, you hooked me in. What are they?

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That is not what is being discussed. Those things are already very illegal and we don't need new and novel ways to address them.
That's exactly what's being discussed?

A dramatic reduction in cost and increase in effectiveness of some undesirable behavior is exactly when you should look for new ways to address it. The goal of making things illegal is to prevent their occurrence, and if they get suddenly much cheaper and more effective, then your prior methods of deterring them will no longer work.

> The goal of making things illegal is to prevent their occurrence.

Making drugs illegal didn't stop people from using drugs. Only a person can stop themselves from doing something, that's not something a law does.

I didn't say all laws are 100% effective, or even greater than 0% effective. I stated why we have laws at all. Pretty wild logic you've got here. Let's try this one:

> Making murder illegal didn't stop people from murdering. Only a person can stop themselves from doing something, that's not something a law does.

Should we not have rape, murder, arson, or fraud laws?

You're confusing a bad law vs a law you don't like.

Turns out drug laws for adults are bad because a huge portion of the population does them. This said very few would agree that we should start letting kids do drugs.

Nuance is important and many people don't seem to grasp that distinction on things that hit close to home with them.

For example, some black hats trained LLMs to pentest, so to find more easily vulnerabilities. Those can be used either to improve your defenses or attack entities.

The AIs like Copilot et al are trained on code poorly written with bad security practices (there is a lot more than you think), hence reproducing these bad practices on produced code.

Because also AI are fallible, the spreading of misinformation more than we already have. The retrieval of credentials with prompt hacking, because people push their credentials.

Because they are generated by AI, the misuse of deepfakes, for example a spanish girl was blackmailed with alleged naked pictures of her, but could be used for far worse.

And I did not scratch the copyright/artistic side of AI.

It's not the AI per se the risk, but what people can do with it. Everything is not beautiful. But there are also good things with AI, I agree.

I think there is the need for some form of regulation in a way or another, the sooner the better. I don't expect the regulation to restrain creativity, but to help prevent bad stuff happening.