[tamimio]

> Those casualty numbers all originate from the “Gaza Health Ministry”

The white house did eventually confirm the casualties (1), not to mention in previous wars there were no major discrepancies and were credible and believed by the white house and media too, in fact, UN believes that the numbers are actually higher but still under the rubble

> Some U.N. officials, however, say the real number of casualties is likely significantly higher because the health ministry’s tally doesn’t include people still under the rubble. (2)

(1) https://twitter.com/OopsGuess/status/1719517883976614095

(2) https://archive.ph/1ftlW

[philwelch]

> The white house did eventually confirm the casualties

The White House confirmed that civilian casualties are taking place, but civilian casualties take place in every armed conflict.

> not to mention in previous wars there were no major discrepancies

False; did you read the part of my comment addressing Jenin? Even in this conflict, the blast at the hospital, Hamas claimed 500 deaths when they blamed it on Israel. It turned out that not only did Israel not bomb the hospital (rather, it was hit by a rocket fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad), but the total number of deaths was, depending on which source you believe, anywhere between 1/10 and 1/2 as many as Hamas had originally claimed.

[tamimio]

> The White House confirmed that civilian casualties are taking place, but civilian casualties take place in every armed conflict.

They did confirm the numbers, they are independently audited by the UN team too, always been the case, even Senators now are confirming the numbers (1), additionally, if US “really” wanted to confirm the numbers, they can send a team there to confirm these numbers by themselves, but we all know it’s just a dirty politics to hijack the credibility of Palestinians officials’ statements to allow further crimes goes undetected.

> False; did you read the part of my comment addressing Jenin?

I did, and has nothing to do with this current issue so it’s irrelevant, since they fall in different administrations (one in Gaza other in West bank)

> It turned out that not only did Israel not bomb the hospital (rather, it was hit by a rocket fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad)

That’s also another lie, it wasn’t a misfire as noted by many analysts who also analyzed the sound of that hit, this video probably provides the best timeline (2)

(1) https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1719858059193794599

(2) https://twitter.com/ChiefTrumpster/status/171679329621789515...

[philwelch]

You’re citing an anti-Israel Pepe the Frog account on Twitter calling itself “Chief Trumpster”? Are you fucking serious?

[tamimio]

Yes because CNN is more credible these days?! That being said, it isn’t citing but rather that account made the available information in a simple short timeline to follow easily, and references are in the video and in the thread too, however, you can find similar conclusions by other analysts, this ex IDF pilot who worked as a squad commander goes in details how the official report is false, https://twitter.com/talhagin/status/1715168880849465506