| > without religion, there is no such thing as morality. Would you agree that non-human animals aren’t religious? Because we see moral behavior in animals. For example [1]: > In another experiment with rats, researchers find that if a rat is given the choice between two containers—one holding chocolate and one holding a trapped rat who appears to be suffering—the rat will try to help the suffering rat first before seeking the chocolate. Experiments like these show that animals make moral choices and that their behavior cannot be explained through natural selection alone. There are lots of other examples, like animals that call out to warn their group of an approaching predator, placing themselves at higher risk. Also, it seems like you’re arguing that an “external” moral code is The Only Way but then excusing people in biblical times for owning slaves because “that was a long time ago.” But shouldn’t their supposed access to this special moral code have been sufficient to conclude that owning humans as property is immoral? > You wouldn't even be able to reason that murder is evil. This is just downright silly. As a rational, thinking person, it’s easy to reason why murdering fellow human beings is not good. > the Bible teaches the very opposite of sexism Anyone can search for “sexism in the bible” to see what it has to say in its own words. For convenience, here’s one such link [2]. [1] https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/morality_anima... [2] https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_sexism |