[orange-mentor]

We already give so much of our lives to earning a wage for a (most-likely) useless job. Give us some time back, at least.

> It makes them feel useful and a productive member of society.

This is a lie for most jobs. Making internet ads more "clickable" is useless. We only work these jobs because the alternative is either starving or accepting a lower status in society by doing something more blue collar.

[ilrwbwrkhv]

Again this mentality. Not everyone is making ads clickable. I do not know from where this idea comes. I do not want to go deep into the industries we operate in but we are helping people take care of each other and inspire each other. Nothing to do with ads. People enjoy working there. I do not fire people, retrain them, take care of them. Why is it so hard to believe?

[rnk]

The point that I think you are missing is that I don't want to work in an office if I can avoid it, and it's not because the office or company is evil. I just choose not to do that if I have that choice; I have worked in offices in cities around me for 20 years. I am making different choices, today there's no shortage of work without in-person. I have been looking for a new job and every company with rto has kind of defensive recruiters, please tell us before you go ahead with an interview loop if you won't rto. I almost feel sorry for them. If you paid me lots more than wfh I might consider them, but that's not what they are doing.

I was talking with one of the top 3 cloud provider companies. They said you must rto but everyone you'd be working with is in another city 1000 miles away. You can work in any of our 3 local offices because you'll just be in online meetings with them, it doesn't matter because there's no one to work with here. That's the crazyness and endless complaints about some RTO. It's great that you respect your workers, that is appreciated and not universal.

[happytoexplain]

So everybody is happily working in your specific office space, but your original post is a complaint about people who claim to not work well in the office.

You might need more context in your original post. I can't tell what you're trying to achieve.

For each person who works well in the office, simply let them work in the office.

[waynesonfire]

It's a generalization; if you squint hard enough every employee at Facebook and Google is making ads clickable, including the janitorial staff.

[taylodl]

Another generalization - tech hasn't improved the quality of our lives since before Facebook. Today tech is just the means for the masses to entertain themselves by moving around the deck chairs on the Titanic while our civilization sinks, and allows a handful of people to make billions of dollars by providing that entertainment.

But hey, at least this guy has a cool office with coffee and snacks! That'll keep us afloat!