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by ballenf 969 days ago
I don't know about "throwing people in jail", but putting criminals in jail certainly reduces crime rates. As opposed to not putting convicted criminals in jail.

But we hardly need advanced DNA profiling to catch 99.9% of criminals (versus just standard DNA matching).
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JadeNB 969 days ago
> I don't know about "throwing people in jail", but putting criminals in jail certainly reduces crime rates.

That's the sort of statement that seems plausible, and even intuitive, but probably needs a citation. It wouldn't wholly surprise me if it were true, though at moral and economic cost; but it would surprise me even less if it were false.

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edgyquant 969 days ago
It’s literally self evident that a person in jail can’t commit crimes on the outside. The statement itself contains all the axioms you need, citations are not something required here. It’s like saying a dead baker reduces the amount of bread in a town for that day and you asking for a source
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JadeNB 969 days ago
> It’s literally self evident that a person in jail can’t commit crimes on the outside. The statement itself contains all the axioms you need, citations are not something required here. It’s like saying a dead baker reduces the amount of bread in a town for that day and you asking for a source

You didn't say "reduces the crime rate outside of prison." I assumed that's what you meant, but it's not clear that ignoring the crime rate inside prison is a reasonable statistic.

People in prison also, presumably, eventually get out, and a claim that prison officials can accurately deduce the likelihood of recidivism, and whether it has been decreased rather than increased by time in prison, is far from clear.

Finally, putting lots of people in prison has an effect on people outside of prison. For example, it is possible—though, again, I don't know; citations are needed—that high incarceration rates lead to more crime outside, since, if a member of a community has a good chance of going to prison whether or not they commit a crime, then prison can cease to have a meaningful deterrent effect in that community.

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