[jyounker]

> Redefining words in order to win arguments. Nice. Defunding means exactly

> that. I know this because that is what happened to the police forces that

> were defunded. Not entirely defunded, but they ended up with less money

> in their budget.

The poster is not redefining the term.

The "Defund The Police" movement has very specific and very well documented goals: Use police only for law-enforcement, and use specialized responders for non-law enforcement interactions. For example, you send mental health specialists when someone is threatening suicide. This will reduce funding for the police, but it also reduces the police's workload.

Is the movement poorly named? Yes. Is their goal to eliminate police? Absolutely not.

[woooooo]

The movement existed for five seconds, had a really bad idea as their name, and now you're saying it was all a misunderstanding and they are really moderates?

Just take the L. The movement messed up.

[RubberbandSoul]

There's a person waving a knife or gun around in public threatening to commit suicide. Now what?

There's a person threatening suicide in public and then pulling out a knife or gun when the authorities show up. Now what?

It's easy to be an armchair law enforcement expert and dream up scenarios where the good guys always wins. But reality doesn't conform to your utopian ideas.

[ameister14]

The "defund the police" movement was not that well organized but I agree, they do have very specific and very well documented goals: the end of policing. They went hand-in-hand with the prison abolitionist movement.

I get that you may not want to eliminate police, but I assure you, a large number of the people at the center of these movements do want that.

[jwarden]

The claim that the "defund the police" movement had any goal other than defunding the police is an example of "sanewashing":

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sanewashing