and yet at this point pretty much expected. So obnoxious and odious - the reality is for any C/C++/rust or similar compilation you need a minimum of 1gb per compilation core for compilation alone, before you consider the rest of the OS :-/
You're saying people shouldn't be able to buy 8GB RAM Macs, which is crazy. I had to check how much memory my laptop has, and it's 8GB and I've never noticed.
I guess you're just complaining about what you get for the lowest price.
Seriously.... My 16gb MacBook pro M1 work machine runs out of memory constantly. I had a MacBook air 8gb and it was useless, it would freeze constantly and have crackly audio.
I found that 24GB ram is really the minimum that is usable on M-series when doing any type of basic work.
Likely an output of so many electron based apps which are memory hungry, but if the memory is supposedly "really fast" then I would expect better performance. Never had the issue with Intel.
But with a nice bit or memory, the performance is really nice.
I'm on 16GB which seems plenty - running many JetBrain's IDE's at the same time, browsers, VM's etc. I know people with the 8GB version and they are fine too. Could be that your machine is faulty somehow and that it's not the RAM but something else.
You are only person in thread that says this. I still have one laptop is a M1 air 16gb. Still fastest computer I have ever owned outside of my MBP, I really only mbp for AI training everything else runs great on air still
> 24GB ram is really the minimum that is usable on M-series when doing any type of basic work
M1 Air with 16 GB RAM. I have RubyMine (JetBrains IDE), an application server running Rails, MariaDB, MongoDB, Redis, Slack, Safari and Apple Music running, and DxO PhotoLab 7 loaded on the non-work desktop space and clicking through some photos I took yesterday. Memory pressure green, laptop chilling at 30 °C.
I'm using Unity (uber wasteful) and Rider (Java) and an M1 air with 8GB is fine, no slowdown whatsoever* (compared to my desktop with 32GB on Windows). RAM is not the bottleneck in *NIX OSes, unless you do something that specifically requires a lot of RAM (eg machine learning)
*compiling is slower, but the desktop has a much faster CPU
I’ve got a 8GB Mac mini, 16GB iMac and a 64GB MBP, all on Apple Silicon.
In 99% of the cases I can’t tell a difference in responsiveness or use and my main use is app development in Xcode and high resolution photo and video editing.
Even when actively monitoring things I mainly see a difference in memory compression, not so much in swap.
As for Intel, before Apple Silicon I had the most tricked out Intel MBP and I’d rather chop my left arm off and be stuck in a bunker for a year with just the 8GB Mac mini than have to use that the Intel MBP is had. Unless perhaps the bunker has no heating, in which case I might have to reconsider.