[coldpie]

> I'd love to pay for YouTube but they insist on bundling it with YouTube Music and I already pay for Spotify.

This is kind of a weird way to think about it. Regardless of what's packaged with it, it's either worth the money for your use or it's not.

> It's £12.99/month. ... I'd probably pay half that for ad-free YouTube.

That makes more sense. For me, it's worth it, but YouTube is my primary video entertainment source.

[andybak]

> This is kind of a weird way to think about it.

Yes - I fully admit that it's a weird way of thinking about it, but the psychology around pricing has a lot of this stuff. I genuinely don't know if I'm an outlier or not. Responses to pricing are rarely about rational cost/benefit analysis.

> That makes more sense. For me, it's worth it, but YouTube is my primary video entertainment source.

I have a limit to how much I'm prepared to pay for video serivces each month. If I add one, something else would have to go. So the issues with YT Premium are a mix of the bundling psychology, the indecision about giving up another service - and the competition with TikTok for (sometimes) similar content.

[calfuris]

For what it's worth, I would be willing to pay full price for YouTube Premium without YouTube Music. The value is there for me, but I voted with my wallet when they replaced a perfectly good music app with YouTube Music and I'm not willing to send a single penny to the replacement.