[smachiz]

Aren't they like 4x the price too?

[folmar]

The boards are the same price, i. OrangePI 5 8GB costs same as Raspberry 5 8GB. At least in EU.

[francisduvivier]

Yes, and there are more advantages to the Orange Pi 5 SBCs:

- They have full size HDMI - They have an m.2 connector - They still have an audio jack - They have more powerful performance cores - They have low performance cores - They have a 6 TOPS NPU

On the other hand, that cheap base model has no built-in wifi, but so you can add it in the m.2 slot.

For me, the Raspberry Pi 5 is quite disappointing. But hey, the good thing is that maybe this will push more of the community to the RK3588(S) based boards.

[hajile]

Orange Pi also has a bunch of extra features too including some standout ones like

* don't need to spend extra $$ for M.1 SSD support

* full-size HDMI so no need for $10 dongle

* 6 TOPS NPU

* better Mali G610 MP4 GPU

* 8k60 output

* USB 3.1 port (10gb/s instead of just 5gb/s)

* 4x A55 cores

* Audio jack

[slaw]

Are any of Orange Pi boards mainlined?

[megous]

Yes.

[francisduvivier]

Hi, happen to have some reference for this?

[megous]

I upstreamed some of them.

Here's a complete list:

https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot...

just search for orange. Most of Orange Pi boards have upstream support. Like one or two don't.

[imtringued]

Nobody needs that GPU. Alyssa Rosenzweig stopped working on the driver and got poached by Valve.

Also, real time encoding with VP8 (yes, that is the standard for WebRTC) barely works. It has barely enough CPU power to produce a working demo, but too little to actually do anything with it.

[speed_spread]

> Nobody needs that GPU [..]

Can you expand on this? Is the hardware too slow, too power hungry, or just badly supported? At least coming from ARM there must be some hardware documentation on how they work. I mean, it can't be worse than Broadcom's all-proprietary GPUs.

[nyanmisaka]

In fact, she just no longer leads panfrost, but still reviews panfrost-related merge requests from time to time. Boris took over her place, and even panvk2 is on its way. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bbrezillon

Mali-G610MP4 is known to handle Genshin impact easily. (https://youtu.be/sA55S2Z7gLo?t=56) I doubt VideoCore VII can do that. As of today, there is still no detailed spec sheet for this GPU.

[francisduvivier]

That GPU does pretty well for running an LLM though.

Llama 7B at 2.8 tok/s via Mlc-chat.

I'm setting up an LLM discord bot with it.

[Bud]

Mini-HDMI doesn't require a dongle. Just get the right cable. They're just as cheap as a normal HDMI cable.

[xyzzy123]

opi5 16gb is about 130 usd, rpi5 is about 80 usd I think? You get twice the cores and RAM so I think they're comparable value. But it's sort of academic for me because rpi5 8GB is not in stock in Australia.