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by nerdponx 970 days ago
Yeah but, one would think after spending even a couple of minutes with Jordan Peterson's corpus of output that maybe we shouldn't venerate people who happen to say one or two things that we find interesting.
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Jordan Petersen talks a lot about life being a struggle and how to get through it and make the most of it. A lot of that resonates strongly in many people, it isn't something you would find faults in after watching a few minutes. And that is within his field of expertise so it makes sense that those points are pretty good.

The problem is when Jordan Petersen starts to talk about other things than that, like politics, gender roles etc. There he repeats similar talking points I've seen on online forums for 20 years now, nothing new or interesting.

Edit: Sometimes downvotes amazes me. Did someone downvote this because I said Jordan Peterson said something good, or because I said he did something bad? Will never know. But I've noticed that balanced takes tend to get more downvoted since both sides downvotes them.

For a minority, downvoting is just a quick way to disagree with you.
For me at least, there's a question as to, "which Jordan Peterson?"

There is the guy you just described, who existed before his year(s?) long struggle with addiction, and then there is the apparently (to me at least) bitter, resentful and angry man who returned after.

Since his return, his expressions, language, positions (and even clothing) have taken on a darker, angrier tone and there's a lot less hope in what I've seen.

For me, this makes this individual different from some others who may fade away over some of issues cited in the article, but remain essentially the same person.

His personality and message changed after a deep and difficult struggle.

I'm not trying to criticize or defend the man, just raising the issue that he may be different from some others in the list.

"The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles."

Karl Marx was even more of a one trick pony than Peterson and, well, he's the most successful public intellectual of all time.