[robertlagrant]

Why is Fly apparently so unstable? I like many love the idea, but get a little scared by the many many anecdotes of issues.

What are they doing that makes it unstable? Lots of new locations spinning up that shake bugs loose? Cost-reducing refactorings that reduce stability?

[urschrei]

(Fly customer for the past 12 months: small web app (three machines across two regions plus replicated Postgres across two regions, on a paid plan)). Fly has been extremely stable for us, with the sole exception of deploys: once a month or so, deploys from CI start failing for a couple of hours. That doesn’t result in any downtime (I have never experienced any downtime due to a failing machine on Fly), just that new code doesn’t end up on prod until it’s fixed. If it’s urgent I email support (highly competent), or wait it out.

I would describe myself as “extremely happy with the service, yet also annoyed by this aspect”. Fly allows me to manage my resources in a way that isn’t really possible elsewhere (from standard Python web apps in multi-hundred-mb containers to specialised Rust apps in < 10mb containers), and in a way that is (now) extremely simple to reason about, and the support has been excellent when I’ve needed it (they were very patient and understanding when I screwed up a region move and managed to somehow break my db leader beyond repair), but I’d like them to address this, because it’s a widespread issue. Given the evolution of their architecture, I suspect they will. But I’d also like them to talk about it more.

[robertlagrant]

Thanks for the insight!

[elxx]

(Background: I'm currently using Fly for some hobby apps. I like it.)

It is still wildly unstable right now because they're basically still building the platform and figuring out how to run a business. Earlier this year there was a migration to their "Apps V2" platform [0] which was supposed to be simple but it was extremely poorly communicated which led to a lot of users hitting issues along the way and being forced to make forum posts to try and desperately figure out how to keep their production apps up. None of the migrations worked for me either, I didn't complain as a freeloader - but seeing the support requests from paying customers painted a really bad picture.

[0] https://community.fly.io/t/get-in-losers-were-getting-off-no...

[itake]

I lost data in the v2 migration with down time. their support (engineers?) are customer facing and unprofessional.

[hipadev23]

I still don't know what Fly Apps vs Fly Machines are and I stopped caring about their service as a result.