[ragestorm]

Agree. Similar to a developer vs. SWE.

[willsmith72]

Disagree. Project manager is extremely different to product. Dev vs SWE is completely arbitrary

[boredtofears]

there is no difference between a developer and an SWE except a fancy title

[jefftk]

Which one is fancier?

[JCharante]

Software Development Engineer is the one title to rule them all

[elicksaur]

What do you see as the difference between a developer and a SWE?

[ipaddr]

One is DevOps and one is a programmer

[elicksaur]

That didn’t really clarify for me, which is which? What is DevOps to you? (Seems to be different for everyone)

The wiki for “programmer” has “software developer, a software engineer, a programmer or a coder” as interchangeable terms in the first sentence.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer

[_rutinerad]

They’re both programmers and you can’t “be devops”.

[59nadir]

The vast majority of my colleagues would say "that person is a devops" instead of "that person does devops", which I don't get at all. I've assumed it's some deeply rooted misunderstanding of language (my colleagues are eastern european) that has taken hold across the entire local industry.