[edent]

LAMP.

It can easily be maintained by a single developer. Scales well enough for a decent number of users. Huge ecosystem of components. Easy to deploy to literally any web host. Wide variety of front-end systems.

If you need to scale, it can do that. Developers for it are plentiful. But you can always rewrite it in the flavour-of-the-month framework when you hit either scale or money.

[edg5000]

For anything that is anticipated to grow beyond a very small codebase, the lack of static checkability really becomes a pain with PHP.

I'm surprised that Java and modern C++ are not more popular. I know for large web applications, Java is popular in "enterprise" environments.

[hipadev23]

PHP has (optional) static type checking: https://www.php.net/manual/en/language.types.declarations.ph...

[KronisLV]

> I'm surprised that Java and modern C++ are not more popular. I know for large web applications, Java is popular in "enterprise" environments.

Java scales both up (Spring Boot, with it's many integrations) and down (Dropwizard, a bunch of popular packages, nice for simpler projects) pretty well, has a great runtime and the language itself is okay.

Also there's .NET, where everything seems to revolve more around ASP.NET and EF, but as a consequence feels less fragmented than things on the Java side. Performance is also nice (especially on Linux with Kestrel) and the tooling is nice.

Honestly, both seem a viable option for something with more typing and language guarantees, as well as on average having a bit better performance than some of the highly dynamic languages (at the expense of iteration speed early on in development).

That said, Go is probably also worth a look, the deployment situation there is way simpler.

[catlover76]

There are other statically typed languages that are more pleasant to work with.

[mooreds]

> Developers for it are plentiful.

It's been a hot minute since I was looking for PHP developers, but when I did, I saw a ton of folks with Wordpress experience. And not many others who had experience with traditional three tier applications, how to write a database query, separation of concerns and general software development.

Maybe I was looking in the wrong places.

Do you find that software engineers who work in PHP are prevalent?

[mooreds]

I recently attended Longhorn PHP and found plenty of PHP software engineers (in the true sense of that word) so maybe I was looking in the wrong places previously?

https://longhornphp.com/

[supportengineer]

Agree but with Postgres instead

[xhkkffbf]

I'm having great luck with SQLite. Most of the content is cached in ram so there aren't many hits on the db.

[hotnfresh]

FNPP

FreeBSD

Nginx

PostgreSQL

PHP/Python

Or, for something a bit less mainstream and only for certain types of application but more minimalist:

FNRL

FreeBSD

Nginx

Redis

Lua

[issa]

Never underestimate the value of tried and true solutions!

[simonw]

Which P?

[edent]

Haha! As it's you, I'll say Python. But for me, PHP.

[threatofrain]

Astro is the PHP of JavaScript and it’s quite lovely.