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by rootbear 971 days ago
Interesting comparisons. Students were definitely using Unix in 1975. My first Unix was actually sixth edition running on a PDP-11/45 at the University of Maryland. I started using it in 1979, but the system had been in use for some years. The system was part of the Computer Vision Lab and was mostly used by grad students for their research. The systems available to the general student population were Univac mainframes (1108 and 1106).

About this time, my friend was working on his Ph.D. in Biology at Wayne State University and they had the MTS. It was pretty ubiquitous from what he’s told me.

I had a free account on MIT-AI at some point in the late 70s. I accessed it over the ARPANET!

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>Students were definitely using Unix in 1975.

What I meant was that none of the various large multiuser systems in universities in 1975 ran on Unix. I imagine that most computer people probably vaguely think that Unix was the first large multiuser OS, and that all Berkeley, Stanford, and MIT students were using it, when neither is the case. If a random university student in 1975 wanted a computer account, assuming that such was available to a non-math/engineering/CS student, it would almost certainly have been on a batch system like your UMD example.

As I alluded to at the end, it's striking how within a decade Unix had clearly gained the momentum. Many (even majority) of non-batch systems in 1985 were likely still on VMS, RSTS, TOPS, or some other DEC OS, but those DEC-hardware sites were of course the first to move to Unix despite DEC's best attempts to prevent this.

>I had a free account on MIT-AI at some point in the late 70s. I accessed it over the ARPANET!

My understanding is that, during the open access era, if you entered the wrong password the system would ask whether you wanted an account. Is that accurate?

How long did your account last? When did the mass revoking of non-MIT accounts occur? Or was there no such revoking, and accounts just expired from disuse?

ITS didn't really have password control, one was technically added but IIRC it was a fig leaf on some requirement from outside MIT. The user accounts were there mostly to inform others who was logged on and who owned what process.

You could login either using terminal through ARPAnet dial-in support, or later over network, and over time there was added a more concrete "tourist" policy.

DonHopkins seems to have an interesting writeup https://donhopkins.medium.com/mit-ai-lab-tourist-policy-f73b...

and of course there's PDP-10 org and its gather docs on github: https://github.com/PDP-10/its

This was a long time ago, but I think you’re correct. If the system didn’t recognize you, it asked if you wanted an account. I only used the account for a year or so, mostly to access some mailing lists. I assume it died of neglect.