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by behnamoh 970 days ago
Which is why I don't understand the reason behind living in suburban areas where houses are far away from each other. If anything happens to a neighbor, others would probably never find out, and it takes a long time for ambulance to get there.

On a side note, I wonder if Apple Watch can detect this kind of events and report that to 911 immediately. Even better, can Apple Watch "predict" such fatal events based on data of millions of users who've had similar incidents?

Edit: Maybe the downvoters can say their counter-argument?

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I've lived in both suburban and urban (current) situations.

In my personal experience, I always felt for more supported and a much bigger sense of community in suburban areas. Most suburban streets I've lived on, even when they weren't in the best neighborhoods, I felt comfortable asking anyone on the block for any kind of help. I do not feel the same way in my current apartment building. We have one neighbor who refuses to walk their 120 pb German Shepard on a leash which has already attacked me and my dogs.

> ... has already attacked me and my dogs.

Shouldn't that dog have been put down already?

It's complicated, and it's SF.

Our dog has actually been attacked by another dog outside on the street and that was more straightforward.

In this situation it happened inside our building, so the city won't do anything and says we need to work with our landlord. Our landlord isn't doing anything despite our repeated asks. The neighbor in question has multiple evictions previously, etc. There just isn't much more we can do unfortunately

Is SF one of those states where you're allowed to open carry? :)
I didn't downvote but why do you think the situation would be any different if something happened to you in an urban apartment? In any case, it's way down the list of reasons why I'd choose some specific type of location to live in.

ADDED: I'd add that the downvotes are probably mostly from people who are tired about being lectured to about how they should be living in cities.

> ADDED: I'd add that the downvotes are probably mostly from people who are tired about being lectured to about how they should be living in cities.

I don't know why my comment would make them think that way. I'm simply stating my opinion.

I work in emergency services. Your argument works for rural areas that are far, far apart. I do timings for station to suburban homes and the like, regularly. You're just not correct on this at all.
The best hospitals in my town's metropolitan area are _inside_ the city, not in the suburbs. Maybe there are some good ones where you live, but ambulance timing is not the only factor—the quality of service is just as important.
I’m curious what you think the ED outcome difference is between the best hospital in your city, and any random suburban one, for generally common emergencies.

Not trying to snark, honest question.

That wasn't your original argument, however.

And here, the suburban hospitals are better.

Regarding the downvotes (none from me, I'll respond generally if it seems at all useful)...

First, this is, I'd say, rather off-topic ... and may seem impolite. It's along the lines of "hey, did you hear so-and-so died?" ... and someone launches into some thought that is not remotely specific to the person who died.

Second, your comment suggests you didn't even bother to 'look at the data'. 'Common sense' basically = 'alchemy', both of which are bollocks.

Now, in fairness, I'll write - among the 'letters' associated with my name, there are not only ... 'credentials', but also, everybody's favorite source of unceasing internal entertainment: attention deficit hyperspace dysplasia. You know, good ol' ADHD. So, I get it ... this may be along those lines, and even people without 'clinical-level' ADHD can have any of the relevant traits at various levels. But still, best to consider certain events like deaths - that many take very seriously - in that light, I'd suggest.

There are almost always people who experience significant sorrow and related emotions at such times. Even not knowing Mr Perry, nor being any particular fan - he had friends, family, and beyond ... all who are now hearing of his rather untimely passing.

> First, this is, I'd say, rather off-topic ... and may seem impolite. It's along the lines of "hey, did you hear so-and-so died?" ... and someone launches into some thought that is not remotely specific to the person who died.

I can see why you'd think that way, but please notice that I'm the OP of the post and have been shocked by the news... The show played a huge role in my life and I wouldn't want to draw attention away from the main topic.

> Second, your comment suggests you didn't even bother to 'look at the data'. 'Common sense' basically = 'alchemy', both of which are bollocks.

I would respect your comment up until this point.

I'd rather take my chances than live in captivity. Understand that many of us view the sardines crammed into apartments with pity and disbelief.
Pitying strangers is an odd approach to life. Some people like cities and apartments. Others don’t. Okay.
Oh, I don't know about that. I mean, actually caring about other people in such a general sense suggests a sort of strong / true character in a person.

OTOH, commenting about your 'pity' in sardonic language, dripping with so much disdain and so many loaded words / phrases that what should be SUBTEXT is all anyone 'hears' - clearly indicating that all you're doing is signaling a preference and not anything like, say, empathy - well, that's about the opposite.

I prefer apartment life.
Never having to mow a lawn. :)
Mowing a lawn is fun, light exercise :) it’s very meditative, especially with some good ear protection and an emission free, electric mower. Beats sitting around on a couch in an apartment.
Or patch a roof, or shovel a drive, or paint the (outside of the) house, …
Never having a lawn. :(
It's called a park.
Which is more environmental and actually useful unlike that fuzz you have to keep wasting energy on or get fined for letting nature grow in your own home.
Beautiful, isn't it? I bet you don't even visit once a month. I bet you think it's boring when you're there. Probably busy, too.

I have it every time I step outside. Fresh air, birds singing, flowers and bees. Last week I held a tiny bird in my hands as we walked among the gardens and trees, until it regathered its strength and flew off.

I suppose I must be missing the appeal of living in a box above a kebab shop with a roommate who barely speaks English.

They're good, right up until you get sick of mowing the damn things.
Here's the counter-argument: Your opinion is pretty much blaming him for the cardiac arrest. He lived alone in a suburb because he valued the privacy and no one ever plans for a heart attack unless you're 70+. Also your solution of having a smart watch track and collect your heart activity and send it to a remote server is pretty concerning too.
> Here's the counter-argument: Your opinion is pretty much blaming him...

No it doesn't. I'm simply asking whether this kind of stuff is more common is suburban areas vs. urban areas.